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Re: Show HN: Chrome extension to display ChatGPT response besides Google Search

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Post by Vetch »

Nathanba wrote: post #29
Spivak wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It does? I hooked up GPT3 to my discord server and can't really tell the difference in quality.

I assumed the ChatGPT3 enhancement is that they added memory of the dialogue to it? That's a huge improvement over one off questions and answers. You can tell it to correct its answers and ask follow up questions.

Probably, they're still using relatively simple queries. Maybe the memory is larger, but with 4096 tokens, GPT-3 is no slouch either. RLHF has tuned it so the conversational output of GPT is more inline with human expectation, it's also less likely to make glaring errors. The cost of their approach is it sometimes get stuck rephrasing things and wraps everything in boilerplate that can derail subsequent generation.

Re: Show HN: Chrome extension to display ChatGPT response besides Google Search

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Post by ramraj07 »

Waterluvian wrote: post #41
freediver wrote: post #13

This is very creative. Thing to note is that this is not free (or at least it is likely not to be, OpenAI is charging for APIs). We are talking about ~1c per search looking at current GPT pricing (2c per ~750 words in/out). It is also indiscriminate deployed in this way, triggering for every search, even those that chatgpt will show suboptimal responses for, like 'starbucks near me', navigational queries like 'twitte…

I forget where I read this recently but a compelling point made was that this is fun as a nerd toy but to deploy it to something general like Google or Gmail would be overwhelmingly expensive. Reminds me of the, “so expensive that only the five richest kings of Europe will own them.” joke from The Simpsons. Eventually it’ll be ridiculously cheap and easy to include anywhere.

I remember estimates of the worth of each search to Google being 10 cents on average. Google does run Bert on many if not all of its searches anyway? And let’s not forget that searching the entire internet is not cheap either! Google holds the entire index in memory and every search hit goes through thousands of machines to return your results. In other words, running chatGPT might not exactly be a problem for google if it decides to do so.

Re: Show HN: Chrome extension to display ChatGPT response besides Google Search

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Post by isthiseasymode »

iLoveOncall wrote: post #40
bko wrote: post #9

I started trying to use ChatGPT instead of google for a lot of my queries. The tricky part is unlearning how to search. For instance, I had a timestamp 2022-11-27 00:00:00.000 and wanted to display it in local string. The problem was (depending on your time zone) if you do new Date("2022-11-27 00:00:00.000").toLocaleString(), you get 11/26/2022 So I would have googled something like "pass timezone to toLocaleString",…

> The tricky part is unlearning how to search. Hum I'd argue that you've never learned how to search. I would have searched for "javascript date to string in specific timezone", and it would have given the following result, which is exactly what ChatGPT gives: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/10087819/convert-date-to... Actually, if you already know that you can pass a timezone to toLocaleString(), I would just go…

> I'm starting to understand why there are so many people on HN claiming that "Google has started to give me bad results in recent years".

I thought I was going crazy. Googles been working fine for me and I was wondering if I was just being delusional or in denial.

Re: Show HN: Chrome extension to display ChatGPT response besides Google Search

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Post by throwup »

Terretta wrote: post #46
DjiboutiJon wrote: post #37

As a side note, I tried to use ChatGPT to collaboratively build a Chrome extension. It seemed a little out of date, preferring Manifest V2 and also not entirely "correct" in how it generated code to match my intent. Has anyone else tried and had luck with this? I wonder if ChatGPT will be limited for niche integration type code (Modding games maybe, Chrome extensions in this example, etc) where there are not as many…

> seemed a little out of date corpus up to 2019 they say .. but i'm not sure, just try asking it: Q. What should Kanye do? A. Kanye should take some time away from the public eye and focus on his own health and well-being. He could use this time to reflect on his past choices and mistakes, and work on rebuilding his relationships with his family and close friends. He should also focus on getting professional help, su…

Here's a Kanye timeline that goes back to 2011: https://consequence.net/2022/10/a-timeline-of-kanye-wests-an...

Re: Show HN: Chrome extension to display ChatGPT response besides Google Search

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Post by tzm »

echelon wrote: post #48
freediver wrote: post #13

This is very creative. Thing to note is that this is not free (or at least it is likely not to be, OpenAI is charging for APIs). We are talking about ~1c per search looking at current GPT pricing (2c per ~750 words in/out). It is also indiscriminate deployed in this way, triggering for every search, even those that chatgpt will show suboptimal responses for, like 'starbucks near me', navigational queries like 'twitte…

The true killer apps will come when StabilityAI or another group releases an open source equivalent of GPT-3.5. Compare Dall-E to the creative explosion that arose from Stable Diffusion. Nobody is going to build the next Google atop OpenAI APIs except for OpenAI themselves. An open source model and pretrained weights will open the playing field for everyone to compete with Google.

Stable diffusion for davinci003 is coming

Re: Show HN: Chrome extension to display ChatGPT response besides Google Search

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Post by mach1ne »

cma wrote: post #47
mach1ne wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ChatGPT can still hallucinate stuff, so if you want to write anything of substance, you have to check its claims through Google.

But Google is probably about to be massively poisoned with ChatGPT output. And things like this repo itself may get fed back in to future versions of GPT possibly impacting it over time.

That's a trippy thought. We're essentially writing real-time into the future GPT's memory.

Re: Show HN: Chrome extension to display ChatGPT response besides Google Search

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Post by s1mon »

leaving wrote: post #49

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Yes, if it was shitty I would 200% agree with you. This is not shitty. It's the opposite of that. This is one of the more game changing things I've seen in 40+ years of using/programming/playing with computers and the internet.

Re: Show HN: Chrome extension to display ChatGPT response besides Google Search

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Post by worldsayshi »

rogual wrote: post #25
li4ick wrote: post #15

ChatGPT is an absolute game changer. And I was very conservative with systems like GPT and DALLE-2. For example, I've been very lazy with automating some things on my work laptop, using Powershell. Now, I just had to ask ChatGPT for "write a powershell script that toggles "use setup script" in the windows proxy settings" and I was done in 5 minutes. Amazing. I foresee a paradigm shift in how we use Google in the next…

You inspired me to try using ChatGPT for a similar need I had, but alas, "Write a bash script to toggle grayscale display mode in MacOS" just comes up with a plausible but non-working script that toggles a hallucinated "AppleIntensityEnabled" setting. To be honest, I feel a bit of relief every time AI fails to do something. Like, okay, we've got a few more years...

If the code is not working you can just try telling it what went wrong. It doesn't have a Dev environment where it can test the code so you have to be its debugger.

Re: Show HN: Chrome extension to display ChatGPT response besides Google Search

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Post by dgellow »

rogual wrote: post #25
li4ick wrote: post #15

ChatGPT is an absolute game changer. And I was very conservative with systems like GPT and DALLE-2. For example, I've been very lazy with automating some things on my work laptop, using Powershell. Now, I just had to ask ChatGPT for "write a powershell script that toggles "use setup script" in the windows proxy settings" and I was done in 5 minutes. Amazing. I foresee a paradigm shift in how we use Google in the next…

You inspired me to try using ChatGPT for a similar need I had, but alas, "Write a bash script to toggle grayscale display mode in MacOS" just comes up with a plausible but non-working script that toggles a hallucinated "AppleIntensityEnabled" setting. To be honest, I feel a bit of relief every time AI fails to do something. Like, okay, we've got a few more years...

Tell it what is wrong and why, it is surprisingly good at fixing itself with a bit of help. I was able to guide ChatGPT well enough to make it write an old school racing game using pygame. Start general, see what it gets correct and what should be changed, and give it better indications.

Re: Show HN: Chrome extension to display ChatGPT response besides Google Search

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Post by Waterluvian »

ramraj07 wrote: post #52
Waterluvian wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I forget where I read this recently but a compelling point made was that this is fun as a nerd toy but to deploy it to something general like Google or Gmail would be overwhelmingly expensive. Reminds me of the, “so expensive that only the five richest kings of Europe will own them.” joke from The Simpsons. Eventually it’ll be ridiculously cheap and easy to include anywhere.

I remember estimates of the worth of each search to Google being 10 cents on average. Google does run Bert on many if not all of its searches anyway? And let’s not forget that searching the entire internet is not cheap either! Google holds the entire index in memory and every search hit goes through thousands of machines to return your results. In other words, running chatGPT might not exactly be a problem for google…

Google’s search of “the entire internet” is lacking more and more every year.

It’s probably not true at all anymore. It’s probably “the sliver of the Internet we prefer you interacted with.”

Any time I search these days I’m amazed at how you can exhaust the search in 1-2 pages before you get to “related hits.”

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