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Re: Show HN: Chrome extension to display ChatGPT response besides Google Search

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Post by Waterluvian »

freediver wrote: post #13

This is very creative. Thing to note is that this is not free (or at least it is likely not to be, OpenAI is charging for APIs). We are talking about ~1c per search looking at current GPT pricing (2c per ~750 words in/out). It is also indiscriminate deployed in this way, triggering for every search, even those that chatgpt will show suboptimal responses for, like 'starbucks near me', navigational queries like 'twitte…

I forget where I read this recently but a compelling point made was that this is fun as a nerd toy but to deploy it to something general like Google or Gmail would be overwhelmingly expensive.

Reminds me of the, “so expensive that only the five richest kings of Europe will own them.” joke from The Simpsons. Eventually it’ll be ridiculously cheap and easy to include anywhere.

Re: Show HN: Chrome extension to display ChatGPT response besides Google Search

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Post by ilaksh »

impulser_ wrote: post #18
skilled wrote: post #3

Is Google in deep waters? And not only because of how good ChatGPT can be, but also as far as "content" goes, because from what I can tell the quality of writing by ChatGPT is very passable for articles, especially if you know the topic you're writing on in and out. I have been thinking about this over the weekend but I haven't been able to get a good feel for it on my own.

No, because they already have LaMDA which is the same thing, a language model for dialogs. Google could implement that into Google today, but the reason they don't is Google is a 200b/year business. You don't want to mess around with a business of that size for the fun of it. We will probably see it in Google Assistant before they add it too Google. OpenAI doesn't have this worry so they can put their model out into…

Also some Google employees have mentioned on HN that Google has been analyzing similar things and the compute is currently too expensive to make it profitable.

Re: Show HN: Chrome extension to display ChatGPT response besides Google Search

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Post by Terretta »

freediver wrote: post #13

This is very creative. Thing to note is that this is not free (or at least it is likely not to be, OpenAI is charging for APIs). We are talking about ~1c per search looking at current GPT pricing (2c per ~750 words in/out). It is also indiscriminate deployed in this way, triggering for every search, even those that chatgpt will show suboptimal responses for, like 'starbucks near me', navigational queries like 'twitte…

For search, abandon Google, not hope. All ye should enter here: https://kagi.com

// as a kagi user, i'd

(a) imagine this as a lens at the simplest; just pick text-davinci-003, tokens 3000 to leave room for prompt, temp 0.7, freq 1 - 1.5, presence 0.5, and instead of best of 3 or 5 show repeated calls as if 3 - 5 unique results

(b) imagine a richer implementation that summarizes other articles on first SERP, then collates and summarizes those (with the compare/contrast structured synthesis GPT-3 does well when POVs differ), and shows the final rollup summary above the individual summaries, in the right hand column

// would also be OK connecting it to my OpenAI token so I'm paying, not you. having done the math, it's nominal cost if not the default mode.

Re: Show HN: Chrome extension to display ChatGPT response besides Google Search

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Post by Xeophon »

oefrha wrote: post #30
izacus wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And yet that doesn't mean Google is regularly returning wrong answers like Chat got is. Don't put out this intellectually lazy argument without considering the magnitude of error and user ability to mitigate it.

Give it some time and the Internet will be swamped by AI-generated dubious crap, and at that point Google will lose its advantage.

The „news“, especially in finance, is more and more autogenerated these days

Re: Show HN: Chrome extension to display ChatGPT response besides Google Search

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Post by Terretta »

DjiboutiJon wrote: post #37

As a side note, I tried to use ChatGPT to collaboratively build a Chrome extension. It seemed a little out of date, preferring Manifest V2 and also not entirely "correct" in how it generated code to match my intent. Has anyone else tried and had luck with this? I wonder if ChatGPT will be limited for niche integration type code (Modding games maybe, Chrome extensions in this example, etc) where there are not as many…

> seemed a little out of date

corpus up to 2019 they say ..

but i'm not sure, just try asking it:

Q. What should Kanye do?

A. Kanye should take some time away from the public eye and focus on his own health and well-being. He could use this time to reflect on his past choices and mistakes, and work on rebuilding his relationships with his family and close friends. He should also focus on getting professional help, such as therapy or counseling, to address any underlying issues he may be facing.

Q. What should Kanye stop doing? Why?

A. Kanye should stop making controversial statements in public. His comments often draw criticism and can be seen as insensitive or offensive, which leads to negative publicity for him and his brand.

So either it's up to date, or Kanye's been Ye for a while and we just didn't talk about it.

Re: Show HN: Chrome extension to display ChatGPT response besides Google Search

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Post by cma »

mach1ne wrote: post #23
skilled wrote: post #3

Is Google in deep waters? And not only because of how good ChatGPT can be, but also as far as "content" goes, because from what I can tell the quality of writing by ChatGPT is very passable for articles, especially if you know the topic you're writing on in and out. I have been thinking about this over the weekend but I haven't been able to get a good feel for it on my own.

ChatGPT can still hallucinate stuff, so if you want to write anything of substance, you have to check its claims through Google.

But Google is probably about to be massively poisoned with ChatGPT output. And things like this repo itself may get fed back in to future versions of GPT possibly impacting it over time.

Re: Show HN: Chrome extension to display ChatGPT response besides Google Search

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Post by echelon »

freediver wrote: post #13

This is very creative. Thing to note is that this is not free (or at least it is likely not to be, OpenAI is charging for APIs). We are talking about ~1c per search looking at current GPT pricing (2c per ~750 words in/out). It is also indiscriminate deployed in this way, triggering for every search, even those that chatgpt will show suboptimal responses for, like 'starbucks near me', navigational queries like 'twitte…

The true killer apps will come when StabilityAI or another group releases an open source equivalent of GPT-3.5.

Compare Dall-E to the creative explosion that arose from Stable Diffusion.

Nobody is going to build the next Google atop OpenAI APIs except for OpenAI themselves. An open source model and pretrained weights will open the playing field for everyone to compete with Google.

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