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Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo

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Re: Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo

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I want the option to control my devices. I don’t understand the arguments that claim Apple needs to rule the device with an iron fist. What problems does it cause to make the locked down experience the default with the option for me to disable that and take control of the device after I buy it? I want to own my stuff. I want to repair it and I want complete control over it. I think that in 10 years we’ll all have car…

You (and anyone reading this comment) are a rare exception. Users of this site are interested in how tech works. You spend time to understand what it’s doing and make things work for you. And that’s awesome! Personally I’m the same way. But an overwhelming majority of people do not want to fight with or customize their tech. Opening the tech actually tricks them into causing more problems by clicking random pop up’s…

> Maybe we need an actually viable Linux phone for tinkerers

Like this https://store.google.com/product/pixel_7_pro?

Re: Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo

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My understanding around how this works (and I might be wrong!) is that Apple tracks a variety of usage on device and your device itself knows which ad to serve, versus say Google or Facebook collating your data on their own servers. I'd not be surprised to learn there was some level of phoning home though.

I have no idea if this is true, but let's say it is. The ad still has to come from a server, unless the phone downloads all possible ads the person might be interested in (which I doubt). The transfer would at a minimum include the IP address of the phone.

Use a shuffler.

Re: Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo

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I want the option to control my devices. I don’t understand the arguments that claim Apple needs to rule the device with an iron fist. What problems does it cause to make the locked down experience the default with the option for me to disable that and take control of the device after I buy it? I want to own my stuff. I want to repair it and I want complete control over it. I think that in 10 years we’ll all have car…

Same should be said for Nintendo or Sony, who assert the same control. Most of the money made is on games. Not saying you’re wrong or anything, if anything I agree, and think it should apply to all my hardware I buy.

In principle I like the idea of non-locked down game systems, regardless of whether they're made by Apple or Nintendo. I find it appealing that the Steam Deck isn't locked down and can run non-Steam games as well as Steam games.

However, the killer app for jailbreaking locked down game systems does seem to be running unlicensed copies of commercial games.

Re: Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo

#364

I want the option to control my devices. I don’t understand the arguments that claim Apple needs to rule the device with an iron fist. What problems does it cause to make the locked down experience the default with the option for me to disable that and take control of the device after I buy it? I want to own my stuff. I want to repair it and I want complete control over it. I think that in 10 years we’ll all have car…

Subscription fatigue. I am tired of having to pay every month for everything. I actively avoid buying subscription based services and products now. Even simple programs and services want me to pay every month. Nope. Not doing that.

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Typically, no, Samsung are one of the few manufacturers who consistently don't lock bootloaders. I've been flashing Samsung Android phones for over 10 years: https://github.com/Benjamin-Dobell/Heimdall That said, they have locked bootloaders on some devices. Predominantly in the US market, I believe at the request of carriers. However, it's traditionally been the minority of devices.

What? Samsung is the most hostile of manufacturers in this regard. Unlocking the bootloader, installing another bootloader, or running a different kernel burns fuses permanently in the device and renders it unable to use their version of hardware-secured storage, aka "Knox." Kiss some multimedia apps, payment apps, and enterprise security features goodbye...along with a bunch of random features like private mode in t…

Why would Samsung allow its proprietary 'Knox' to work with other bootloaded OS? They have every right to not support any other OS other than their own.

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I'll contrast this with my TV. I want a TV that works and displays pictures & sound. Instead my TV is an Android hub with dozens of random apps installed. What it doesn't do half the time is work. Sure, I have "control" but I'd rather have "functional devices!"

I'm dreading the day my 4K "dumb" LCD TV dies. It's now basically impossible to replace.

Eh. Get an Apple TV. HDMI CEC means you never have to interact with the default UI.

Re: Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo

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>I would consider the ability to download as many songs for offline use as my phone's actual storage allows to be the feature, Last I knew you are hard limited to 3,333 songs on device, for licensing reasons.

I have over 14,000 songs in iTunes on my Mac, iPod Touch and Galaxy 10e.

They're referring to streaming subscription licensing. Not applicable if you buy songs individually

https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/spotifys-333...

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I like being able to trust my device and my kids device, if you wan't something to hack on get a pinephone or something the reality is that billions of people need to trust their phones with their most personal information, fininaces and lives and apple's policies while sometimes annoying do a lot to build that trust they aren't a big secret and if you don't like it you're free to not buy their products

You seem to be arguing that only apple (or google) has the ability to protect your device. Honestly, the best protection would be the ability to control your own device, and make apple just one of many ways to help you secure it. I would love to be able to firewall my device. To see what apps are doing and to prevent them from doing things you don't like. Then you can trust but verify. By the way, apple does TONS of…

> Look at deep linking, iBeacon, and lots of other silly things.

iBeacon is 1-way read-only. Deep Linking is an app url scheme. Not much to look at.

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Both your links go to the same Proton article and the heart of it seems to be this: > Apple monitors your every move in the App Store and its News and Stocks apps and then uses that data to sell ads targeting you in those same apps. To meet its growth forecasts, experts expect Apple to start selling ads in its Maps, Podcast, and Books apps, meaning it could replicate this model across more of its services. Much more…

Why do you assume Apple doesn't also track every website and email you read (especially if you use the default Apple-made apps)? After all, they make the OS, they can track whatever they want.

Burden of proof fallacy

Re: Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo

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I would look for better examples than Twitter to base that claim on. The primary lesson to draw there is that you’ll have a harder time running a business if you act like a coked-up frat boy, which is … not a surprise?

The point is that at even the slightest hint that Apple might compromise Twitter's iPhone App or advertising, Musk has to visit and smooth things over. Have you heard that actions speak louder than words? If Apple didn't have too much power why would this occur?

Because Elon is a nut and likes stirring up drama? For real, who was the first person to tell Elon that twitter was going to be banned? Was it Tim Cook? Or was it catturd?
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