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Nope. They were taking about Apple cracking down. That’s not the same as being forced to make a software change at the governments demand.
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They were just making a housing change at the government's demand.
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Why should we possibly believe that any software switches actually fully disable anything? If there isn't a hardware killswitch, there is no reasonable expectation that the cellular radio is actually disabled... There are trustworthy sources claiming that the NSA still tracks devices that are completely "powered off". No reason to believe that the CCP doesn't have that ability as well.
Hardware killswitches are security theatre, if you can’t trust the software layer to that degree than you are just lost behind saving.
Strong disagree - defense in depth is a thing.
I once had my phone, which I had turned off, loudly ring during a moment of silence I was attending. It was extremely embarrassing, and until I replaced that phone whenever I was in a similar situation where it was critical to be quiet, I removed the battery. It wasn't that I didn't trust the phone or it's software, but mistakes and accidents happen, and for some critical situations it's better to be safe than sorry.
Same thing applies to phones with hardware switches.
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#563Any Apple employee (or really, any large-company employee) would agree that this change is months of work. From the original problem statement (people get spammed when they leave AirDrop set to Everyone), to many strongly-opinionated discussions on how to solve (There's not a problem; Pop up a reminder to disable after an hour; Enable only for some period of time [5 minutes, 10 minutes, 1 hour, user-configured]), and…
Normally it would be several months of work, but if it was a top level company directive (e.g. from the CEO) it would probably take 3-4 weeks at minimum. Note that protests have been going on sporadically for this entire year.
See this article about a protest from Peking university from May 2022: https://apnews.com/article/covid-health-shanghai-china-cbcac...
and Shanghai in April 2022: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/shanghai-videos-residents...
And in Henan in June 2022: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-61793149
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#564Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why should we possibly believe that any software switches actually fully disable anything? If there isn't a hardware killswitch, there is no reasonable expectation that the cellular radio is actually disabled... There are trustworthy sources claiming that the NSA still tracks devices that are completely "powered off". No reason to believe that the CCP doesn't have that ability as well.
Hardware killswitches are security theatre, if you can’t trust the software layer to that degree than you are just lost behind saving.
No. You can inspect the hardware. If you can verify that the switch disables the radio, you don't have to worry about software do you?
... unless there is some other way to exfiltrate data, such as:
1. alternative antennae, chipsets?
2. some kind of filtering + buffer + delayed send
3. something else...?
Whatever the case, such techniques are not free of cost and increase the chance of exfil detection. So, killswitches provide a later of protection. Therefore, the claim that killswitches are of _no_ use is not adequately argued above.
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#565Here’s to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes… the ones who see things differently...
That was Steve Jobs' mantra. Not Tim Apple's. Different administration.
Apple wasn't making and selling devices in China before Cook? Interesting.
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#566How are they using it?
Airdrop is based on proximity as measured by NFC and/or Bluetooth (?), and you can't use it as an ad hoc network mesh to route messages across it.(?)
So Activist Organizer 1 can't coordinate with Activist Organizer 2 3 km away using Airdrop unless activists in the space between forwards / routes messages in the right physical direction.
If they are well organized from the beginning, then each person (node) can forward each message to 3 - 5 contacts but that requires them to maintain physical formation during the activities.
I am not an expert on AirDrop, I am just trying to figure out how it helps out.
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Apple's "home constituency" if anything is China; approximately 100% of all Apple devices are made in China by Chinese nationals. Apple is more a Chinese company than an American one, in practice. The CCP ultimately controls Apple as thoroughly as any US federal government lawmaking body or regulator. I wouldn't be surprised if the CCP starts demanding that Apple start making changes to their worldwide software and n…
Which company design these Chinese-made Apple products?
Where is that design company located?
If that design company stopped outputting anything, what would the Chinese-made Apple product making company do? I'm guessing they would keep making more of the same and end up with a stale product in a few years.
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Yeah, I quite agree. Reposting my comment from above here because this makes a better thread ... I think this 10 minute delay might actually be intended to be protective for the protestors. Any radio transmitter is a beacon that can be localized and destroyed. In serious warfare this is a major issue. "I'm up, they see me, I'm down" is drilled into military operators early and often.
You think Apple is trying to protect protestors? Do you know which country manufactures the iPhone? Apple is not suicidal.
There is a delicate balance of action and phrasing in China, no? It seems two contradictory ideas can coexist for significant lengths of time; e.g. see
the complexities around Taiwan's relationship with China. Perhaps someone with a deeper knowledge of the culture can explain it better.
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It's a private platform- Also, have you ever heard of the paradox of tolerance? You can't blame him for taking a stand against these extremists...
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>you can't claim the paradox of tolerance while re-instating the treasonous former president's account.
This is just whataboutism.
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Apple certainly tailors the emojis available to the local political climate. They don't, for instance, have the flag of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan, instead using the flag of the former Islamic Republic of Afghanistan.
That would be because IRA remains the sole government of Afghanistan recognized by relevant agencies such as UN. Which companies generally defer to when they came, because it cuts down on a lot of individual political decisions they'd have to make otherwise. Yandex is an interesting showcase of how bad this can get - they literally dropped country borders from their maps last year "for better user experience". And I…
Google Maps also does this when the border is under contention. Selecting a country with a contested border like Ukraine or Russia will only highlight the country name, but selecting a country with uncontested borders like Poland or Germany will draw a red outline around the country.