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Post by falcolas »

DashAnimal wrote: post #98
falcolas wrote: post #76

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They're still trying to get back in. See project Dragonfly for example.

Dragonfly was discontinued in 2018, MAYBE mid 2019. That is 3-4 years ago.

And? They were booted out of China over 12 years ago. 3 years ago isn't that long, in that timeline. Given their known attempts to get back in, it's likely there are other such secret initiatives we don't know about.

China represents a huge potential market for Google that their investors won't let leadership forget about.

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Post by yamtaddle »

fasthands9 wrote: post #105
yamtaddle wrote: post #59

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> You pay $1000 for a computer, and you are only allowed to install software on it that Apple says you are allowed to. For i-devices, yeah, true. > You can only pay for software on their own store. As nice as exposing the App store to more market effects might be, the app store monopoly enables them to force other companies to be less shitty on the platform (or else abandon it—but it's lucrative, so most don't), so i…

I'm pretty torn on all this. Obviously the 30% is exorbitant. But the positive effects from it are very hard to see once you are used to everything working.

Yeah, the 30% sucks and is one of many things I wish Apple'd do differently. But... where else am I gonna go?

Ultimately, I really wish they had significant, competent competitors for the specific sort of thing they do. I like Apple because government has entirely failed to regulate absolutely horrible behavior by software vendors, so at least I can pay Apple to enforce some basic and largely no-brainer regulations instead, but I hate that the OS/platform market is so screwed-up that there's effectively no alternative that offers anything like what Apple does, and not just when it comes to defending against all-too-common bad actors.

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Post by vbezhenar »

skeaker wrote: post #103
webinvest wrote: post #83

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Apple quite literally had a scandal where it was exposed in court that they deliberately slow older devices down to prematurely make them appear obsolete so that users will discard them sooner. I'm sure there are Android devices that do this too, but Apple really shouldn't be applauded for the longevity of their devices.

I'm pretty sure this is not true. They slow down the device when battery can't provide enough current to sustain unthrottled CPU. Its happening in the latest iOS. It happened with my 5 year phone few months ago which suddenly turned off. I don't even feel this throttling but it doesn't turn off anymore.

On an unrelated note, my Google Pixel 7 just hanged up. It didn't happen to me since windows XP I think. It's the worst phone I've ever owned.

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Post by Symbiote »

api wrote: post #41
curiousgal wrote: post #33

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> I can’t get out of their ecosystem fast enough. I don't know if you mean this literally but to me it was very simple. Just stopped buying their products. I am still alive, productive and with a clearer consciousness.

Is there anyone who isn't dependent on Chinese labor or the Chinese market? How are the Android vendors in this respect? From what I can see the entire world is completely addicted to China as a cheap source of medium to high skill labor and as a place where manufacturing can be done with little environmental regulation.

Samsung Galaxy S23 -- Vietnam, South Korea

Possibly some Google Pixel 7 -- Vietnam

ASUS -- Taiwan

Sony -- Japan

(Sometimes it's only specific models.)

https://notochina.org/best-cell-phones-not-made-in-china/

https://chinanever.com/categories/phones-not-made-in-china

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Post by kmeisthax »

exabrial wrote: post #58

* Apple is not a green company * Apple is not a free speech advocate * Apple builds their products with unethical labor

Neither is Tesla.

Musk does not give a shit about the free speech of left-wingers. Tesla's also even more in bed with China than Apple is; both in terms of exploitative labor practices and China owning their demand. And electric vehicles are just a way to greenwash suburbs.

EDIT: Nevermind, I got confused with another thread that was talking about Tesla. Leaving this comment up for posterity.

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Post by ThePhysicist »

jsnell wrote: post #8

This seems to have been announced a couple of weeks ago, so we don't need to just trust the tweet: https://www.macworld.com/article/1377200/apple-to-limit-aird... Having it open to everyone for only a limited amount of time actually kind of seems like the right thing, but it's hard to come up with a legit explanation for why they rushed that change to China first.

The timing of the change seems quite conspicuous [1], and it's also weird that Apple would introduce this in China first and only roll it out to the rest of the world next year. The same article mentions that Apple blocks the Taiwanese flag emoji in China, for which it's hard to come up with an explanation other than bowing to censorship.

1: https://chinadigitaltimes.net/2022/11/netizen-voices-apple-r...

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Post by [deleted] »

elicash wrote: post #36
sschueller wrote: post #30

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You're joking right? He is so far up china's behind that he was offered Chinese citizenship which is almost impossible to get. https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/tesla-boss-elon-musk-offered...

Yes, I am joking. I'm aware of the record China sales for Tesla. Of his expressed pro-China views. Of his favorable treatment by the government there. Etc.

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Post by lancesells »

skeaker wrote: post #103
webinvest wrote: post #83

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Apple quite literally had a scandal where it was exposed in court that they deliberately slow older devices down to prematurely make them appear obsolete so that users will discard them sooner. I'm sure there are Android devices that do this too, but Apple really shouldn't be applauded for the longevity of their devices.

> that they deliberately slow older devices down to prematurely make them appear obsolete so that users will discard them sooner

Not an Apple apologist but I think you're leaving out a detail. Apples reasoning was due to older batteries[0]. You can see from the linked tweet the phones speed went back up when the battery was replaced. It may very well still be nefarious on their part.

[0] https://www.techradar.com/news/apple-might-be-slowing-down-y...

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Post by NaturalPhallacy »

elicash wrote: post #7
throwaway23597 wrote: post #2

Apple: where it's totally fine to build products with what amounts to slave labor, and aiding the CCP in censorship is totally cool too, but Twitter is far too dangerous to be allowed on the app store because a meanie is in charge of it.

Speaking of twitter, it's weird Musk hasn't commented yet on the protests in China. Looking forward to him taking on censorship and standing for free speech around the globe, particularly in China.

>Speaking of twitter, it's weird Musk hasn't commented yet on the protests in China.

Tales about what people haven't done are pure propaganda. I first noticed this under trump. News outlets constantly decried him for things he didn't do. That isn't news. News is fundamentally what did happen. Everything else is propaganda. It's a particularly insidious way to malign someone that seems rational, but with absolutely no substance behind it.

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