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Re: Show HN: Unclutter – Reader mode, but better

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Playing the devil's advocate: Why is Firefox Reader mode not good enough? And also please note that Mozilla has their algorithm in the open here: https://github.com/mozilla/readability

I just wish we could remove the toolbar that I don't need yet is permanently stuck at the top.

It may be possible to hide that with custom user styles: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1069513

Looking at that link, wow -- I didn't realise the Firefox reader existed for over 7 years now.

Re: Show HN: Unclutter – Reader mode, but better

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thank you for the feedback, really interesting ideas. > being able to search text on the sites in your browser history I'm curious, have you used this in Memex when it was still supported? > Linked texts, e.g PG might say X then Naval says something in the same area. Do you mean direct hyperlinks and backlinks between articles? So if the Naval post references a PG essay, you'd see that while reading the PG essay? > R…

Ignore the Linked text idea, in theory it is solved by the Memex like feature. It might lead to an over engineered trap. Regarding the Memex like feature I did use it a lot, it worked like full text search for the HTML, they had a sync service that worked by importing your search history, I'm guessing they downloaded the HTML and stored it, so they could search against it. My usage of the service is a couple of years…

Yeah, I'm wondering why Memex disabled the search feature. It obviously didn't work out for them.

> It could decide based on other users who also saved the article

That's a cool idea, I'll think about it. Maybe it doesn't even need to be other Unclutter users. I already ingest almost every Hacker News post for the social annotations feature and there are APIs for web traffic stats.

Thank you for the links on pricing, that's very helpful. At least this Show HN has convinced me to keep trying for a bit longer :)

If you have any other feedback later, just email me, open an issue, etc. Thanks!

Re: Show HN: Unclutter – Reader mode, but better

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I am ashamed to advertise it so bluntly but I wrote a similar tool that might address some of the above requests. The browser extension works with all desktop browsers, Firefox Beta/Nightly on Android (that's how I use it) and with Kiwi Browser on Android. The IOS shortcut has only been tested via appetize.io. There's a sort of sync - RSS and a dedicated web page. Bypasses some paywalls and most ublock/adbock blocker…

Oh nice! Seems like "send articles to Kindle" is its main selling point?

Not only Kindle. There are e-readers with Dropbox integration and RSS is still widely used. My own scenario (no matter phone or computer):

- I come to a page I want to read later, a page behind a soft paywall, a page with a "switch off your add blocker" popup, page with tons of JS, popups, videos that takes forever to load and one has to close this and that while scrolling down

- It takes one click (2 to 4 taps on mobile) to send the page to web2doc and forget

I read the content directly in the web channel or (1)Feeder reminds me about the new article(s) within half an hour.

(1) Feeder: https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.nononsenseapps.feeder/

Re: Show HN: Unclutter – Reader mode, but better

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Nit on landing page, seperate should be separate.

Fixed now, thanks! There really should be a Grammarly extension for code editors (I know there actually is, but I don't want it to see all the stuff I write).

Pretty sure vscode has a spell check extension. More or less good enough unless you're doing legit writing.

Although, dunno how it'd work for dynamic data.

Re: Show HN: Unclutter – Reader mode, but better

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> Monetisation has proven to be hard and for freemium there would need to be much higher numbers anyways. Do you think I should keep working on the project?

The chances of you making first world country wages with such a project is minimal. So if that was your goal, I'd adverse seeking something else. Now, whether you want to continue working is up to you.

Re: Show HN: Unclutter – Reader mode, but better

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For what it's worth, I do this manually through a combination of uMatrix element removal and custom CSS stylesheets (applied via the Stylish CSS manager browser extension). I've experimented with both general and more specific clean-up rulesets. I'll be the first to admit that this requires some knowledge of CSS. Or, in my case, turned out to be how I learned most of what I know about it ;-) There are a few general o…

Yeah, parsing & cleaning up HTML will always be a heuristic that fails sometimes.

I'd highlight your point nr. 5. A very large percentage of articles use Wordpress or other website builders. Once you support a few large sites your coverage drastically increases.

With Unclutter I also found it helpful to have an automated fallback -- if the text content of the page reduces too much, it disables some of the content block methods one by one.

Re: Show HN: Unclutter – Reader mode, but better

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I like it. Ought to be a built-in browser feature, in addition to generic reader mode. But then so should uBO-level ad blocking...so you may have many years.

Have you considered donations/sponsors/patrons? Presumably more an occasional coffee requires massive numbers of users for something like this, but maybe you could do something like prioritize attention to site-specific fixes (which seem to be the main thing in https://github.com/lindylearn/unclutter/issues) for supporters.

Added: the annotation/library/social features look interesting and thoughtfully done, but <10% chance I'll use regularly. Perhaps I should want a tool such as this to help me be more organized, but instead I perceive it a bit as...clutter.

Re: Show HN: Unclutter – Reader mode, but better

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Tested this on pg essays, the social comments is a pretty cool feature, I initially thought you would also surface the footnotes, similar to gwern site (one site I doubt I'd ever use a reader mode on). Lovely tool, in terms of things I would pay for, the actual reader mode is not really the thing I would pay for. What I would pay for would be, highest to lowest: 1. An awesome search engine that can search text I read…

1. There's one called Operand.ai which does exactly that.

Re: Show HN: Unclutter – Reader mode, but better

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> Monetisation has proven to be hard and for freemium there would need to be much higher numbers anyways. Do you think I should keep working on the project? The chances of you making first world country wages with such a project is minimal. So if that was your goal, I'd adverse seeking something else. Now, whether you want to continue working is up to you.

Yeah, monetisation evidently not the goal of the project. I mostly want more motivation to work on it :)
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