> Monetisation has proven to be hard
What paths have you taken/considered? Given that this is open source, how would you get users to pay?
Show HN: Unclutter – Reader mode, but better
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#62I would pay to have something like this that could also summarise articles with GPT-3.
Have you used other services that summarise articles? What would be the workflow? Do you want to read the summary instead of the article, use it to decide whether to read, or something else?
I've been using Explainpaper (https://www.explainpaper.com/) to get an introductory understanding of textbook chapters and technical articles. I want to do the same for news articles and specialised blogs.
Yes, I would like to see a one-paragraph summary of technical articles to decide if they are worthwhile to read. For news articles, the summary might be all I want to read.
I have very little time to read things online. I try to skim the introductory and closing paragraphs in articles I read, but some authors bury the "meat" of the matter among walls of text. And for someone like me, that knowledge is practically inaccessible. I also don't think I have the attention span for some very long technical texts. A plain English summary would enable me to read them.
To recap - I would like to see a GPT-3-like summary of the entire article. It would primarily help me by saving time reading technical texts - either by helping me digest them or by helping me understand whether the text is worth reading in the first place.
If article summaries were cached for each article, that would be fine for my use and probably more economical on your end. I do not want to get bespoke summaries for parts of the article or summaries answering questions.
Re: Show HN: Unclutter – Reader mode, but better
#63This is great. Could you add context menu to go reader mode directly from a link? This will be great for accompanying HN.
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#64This is really well done. The 'reader mode' is very clean. I really like the 'Table of Contents' that show up on the left as well as whether the article has been scrolled to the end (reading completed).
Certain features like widening and reducing the width of the 'reader mode', as well as changing font size, I've not seen earlier. The highlighting feature is also great.
The 'Library', which shows list of pages I've uncluttered and highlights is awesome!
On top of that, the fact that it is open source, is fantastic.
Kudos for all the work and providing to everyone for free.
You've already provided an 'Export Data' option as well!
In terms of monetization, I can think of -
1. import from that exported CSV
2. seamless sync when I'm using different browsers or systems. Essentially, a paid account via which the sync happens seamlessly.
All in all a fantastic piece of open source software. Thank you!
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#65Tested this on pg essays, the social comments is a pretty cool feature, I initially thought you would also surface the footnotes, similar to gwern site (one site I doubt I'd ever use a reader mode on). Lovely tool, in terms of things I would pay for, the actual reader mode is not really the thing I would pay for. What I would pay for would be, highest to lowest: 1. An awesome search engine that can search text I read…
Thank you for the feedback, really interesting ideas. > being able to search text on the sites in your browser history I'm curious, have you used this in Memex when it was still supported? > Linked texts, e.g PG might say X then Naval says something in the same area. Do you mean direct hyperlinks and backlinks between articles? So if the Naval post references a PG essay, you'd see that while reading the PG essay? > R…
Ignore the Linked text idea, in theory it is solved by the Memex like feature. It might lead to an over engineered trap.
Regarding the Memex like feature I did use it a lot, it worked like full text search for the HTML, they had a sync service that worked by importing your search history, I'm guessing they downloaded the HTML and stored it, so they could search against it. My usage of the service is a couple of years old so things might have changed, at the time it would crash when I did imports.
You already have search on highlights and full text on them, so maybe the Memex like feature isn't needed.
> How should it decide which article you want to re-read?
It could decide based on other users who also saved the article, this might require storing the data on your servers, maybe number of highlights made or just ask the users when they add it to their queue.
Nice extension, the more I use it the more I like it. I've even disabled Firefox reader mode in favor of this.
Hope you find a way to monetize, play around with other monetization strategies other than good-better-best or one size fits all price point. Maybe usage based on the queue? There might be heavy crowds of users who would have a higher willingness to pay for example the "Second Brain" crowd.
Links
Memex Site: https://memex.garden/
Recent Pricing Guide I've been working through:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33502567
Priceintelligently posts on hn: https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=priceintelligently.co...
Some Lago Blog posts on pricing: https://www.getlago.com/category/product-billing
Re: Show HN: Unclutter – Reader mode, but better
#66Just tried a bit, looks nice!
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#67This is the most useful thing I've seen on HN since... well, I don't know when. Thanks a lot OP. Keep working on it.
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#68Playing the devil's advocate: Why is Firefox Reader mode not good enough?
And also please note that Mozilla has their algorithm in the open here: https://github.com/mozilla/readability
Re: Show HN: Unclutter – Reader mode, but better
#69Playing the devil's advocate: Why is Firefox Reader mode not good enough? And also please note that Mozilla has their algorithm in the open here: https://github.com/mozilla/readability
It is good enough for many people and readability.js is re-used in many other projects. I'm really grateful for it.
Unclutter just produces more visually pleasing results by keeping the original style of the website intact.
Here's a side-by-side comparison: https://github.com/lindylearn/unclutter/blob/main/docs/compa...
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#70I am ashamed to advertise it so bluntly but I wrote a similar tool that might address some of the above requests. The browser extension works with all desktop browsers, Firefox Beta/Nightly on Android (that's how I use it) and with Kiwi Browser on Android. The IOS shortcut has only been tested via appetize.io. There's a sort of sync - RSS and a dedicated web page. Bypasses some paywalls and most ublock/adbock blockers.