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Re: Show HN: Unclutter – Reader mode, but better

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Post by unsafecast »

hnthrow10282910 wrote: post #7

Might just be me, but the example photos (not the first two) don’t load on the landing page

I have no idea if it's related, but on chrome on my phone most of the page was solid yellow. Took a while to realize I'm supposed to scroll and the things show up.

I don't like this 'trend' of the things appearing with an animation as you scroll, I find it irritating and sometimes confusing.

Anyway, the problem here seems to be that the threshold is way too high, it only triggers when you scrolled the whole content away.

Re: Show HN: Unclutter – Reader mode, but better

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Post by [deleted] »

phgn wrote: post #10
clnq wrote: post #9

I would pay to have something like this that could also summarise articles with GPT-3.

Have you used other services that summarise articles? What would be the workflow? Do you want to read the summary instead of the article, use it to decide whether to read, or something else?

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Re: Show HN: Unclutter – Reader mode, but better

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Post by phgn »

morsch wrote: post #12

Naturally this required the "Access your data for all web sites" permission -- most powerful/useful extensions need this permission. But I've been pretty conservative in adding extensions with it (as in, just two, including the obligatory UBO). Why isn't there a permission where the add-on doesn't get to access anything until I activate it for a specific tab, and then it only gets to access to that specific tab? Uncl…

It's possible for extensions to only get access when you activate it for a specific tab. If you want Unclutter to work this way you can manually set "Site access" to "On click" in the Chrome extension settings (this doesn't work on Firefox unfortunately).

The reason I enabled "all sites" by default is to make the automatic activation feature work, which used to be more powerful. Possibly it can be done with an optional permission now, I'll look into it: https://github.com/lindylearn/unclutter/issues/527

Thanks for the feedback! Also, if you don't like something you can always submit a PR ;)

Re: Show HN: Unclutter – Reader mode, but better

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Post by k1m »

morsch wrote: post #12

Naturally this required the "Access your data for all web sites" permission -- most powerful/useful extensions need this permission. But I've been pretty conservative in adding extensions with it (as in, just two, including the obligatory UBO). Why isn't there a permission where the add-on doesn't get to access anything until I activate it for a specific tab, and then it only gets to access to that specific tab? Uncl…

There is an activeTab permission which does this (limits access).

Mozilla: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Add-ons/Web...

Chrome: https://developer.chrome.com/docs/extensions/mv3/manifest/ac...

Re: Show HN: Unclutter – Reader mode, but better

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Post by phgn »

agumonkey wrote: post #17

add nlp based automatic tagging and i'm set :)

Tagging for what specifically? What would you use the tags for?

I actually experimented with article topic-prediction for a few months, but assignment errors were annoying and it was not clear if it's useful at all.

Re: Show HN: Unclutter – Reader mode, but better

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Post by agumonkey »

phgn wrote: post #25
agumonkey wrote: post #17

add nlp based automatic tagging and i'm set :)

Tagging for what specifically? What would you use the tags for? I actually experimented with article topic-prediction for a few months, but assignment errors were annoying and it was not clear if it's useful at all.

main topic of the page, so you can switfly bookmark it with 1-3 tags preset for you. maybe i'm just a unorganized hoarder that can't use bookmark to save his life but i wanted to make that for years and never got started :)

Re: Show HN: Unclutter – Reader mode, but better

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Post by phgn »

catchmeifyoucan wrote: post #11

Digging this UI. It's actually really beautiful compared to regular ol' reader mode. The UI is nice, and it's a cool touch to see social comments. Nice work! I love that you also opened source it! Which is a huge win. It might also be nice to "auto-activate", so people don't forget it's running. Right now, I have to click the extension to run it. If it could pass paywalls, I'd probably pay ("donate" might be a better…

Hey thank you! I'm really glad you like the extension.

There actually is an "auto-activate" feature you can enable in the settings. Is this what you had in mind?

Regarding mobile support, I know. I'm not sure how to handle mobile Chrome which doesn't allow extensions, but for Safari this should be possible. No guarantees when I can get to this though. See https://github.com/lindylearn/unclutter/issues/529

Re: Show HN: Unclutter – Reader mode, but better

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Post by Whiteshadow12 »

Tested this on pg essays, the social comments is a pretty cool feature, I initially thought you would also surface the footnotes, similar to gwern site (one site I doubt I'd ever use a reader mode on).

Lovely tool, in terms of things I would pay for, the actual reader mode is not really the thing I would pay for. What I would pay for would be, highest to lowest:

1. An awesome search engine that can search text I read, think being able to search text on the sites in your browser history, there was a service that did this called Memex, and Rewind seems like it's trying to do something similar.

2. Linked texts, e.g PG might say X then Naval says something in the same area.

3. Reminders about articles I read x period of time and might want to re read.

I'll think of other features I would be willing to pay for.

Re: Show HN: Unclutter – Reader mode, but better

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Post by morsch »

k1m wrote: post #24
morsch wrote: post #12

Naturally this required the "Access your data for all web sites" permission -- most powerful/useful extensions need this permission. But I've been pretty conservative in adding extensions with it (as in, just two, including the obligatory UBO). Why isn't there a permission where the add-on doesn't get to access anything until I activate it for a specific tab, and then it only gets to access to that specific tab? Uncl…

There is an activeTab permission which does this (limits access). Mozilla: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Add-ons/Web... Chrome: https://developer.chrome.com/docs/extensions/mv3/manifest/ac...

That sounds like it's exactly what I want, thanks, very interesting.

Re: Show HN: Unclutter – Reader mode, but better

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Post by morsch »

phgn wrote: post #23
morsch wrote: post #12

Naturally this required the "Access your data for all web sites" permission -- most powerful/useful extensions need this permission. But I've been pretty conservative in adding extensions with it (as in, just two, including the obligatory UBO). Why isn't there a permission where the add-on doesn't get to access anything until I activate it for a specific tab, and then it only gets to access to that specific tab? Uncl…

It's possible for extensions to only get access when you activate it for a specific tab. If you want Unclutter to work this way you can manually set "Site access" to "On click" in the Chrome extension settings (this doesn't work on Firefox unfortunately). The reason I enabled "all sites" by default is to make the automatic activation feature work, which used to be more powerful. Possibly it can be done with an option…

Sorry, I should have been more specific, I'm on Firefox. Nice that it's already possible in Chrome.

It was intended to be a comment about the limited power of the permission model in Firefox, though I have now learned from the sibling comment that Firefox actually has the permission I was thinking of.

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