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An offshore workforce is training Amazon’s warehouse-monitoring algorithms

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Re: An offshore workforce is training Amazon’s warehouse-monitoring algorithms

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Post by gruez »

Melting_Harps wrote: post #29
winkeyless wrote: post #6

I feel that we are living through Les Misérables again

> I feel that we are living through Les Misérables again Seems like a speed run of the gilded age to me with the inevitable war theater in Europe and potentially Asia as the back drop for the World Wars that took placce in the 20th Century seems more apt; Amazon is the worst of the FAANGS, and that is saying a lot. It operates under the notion of such an extreme as a 'core value' that it becomes entirely counter-prod…

>Seems like a speed run of the gilded age to me with the inevitable war theater in Europe and potentially Asia as the back drop for the World Wars that took placce in the 20th Century seems more apt;

What does workplace monitoring have to do with global conflicts?

>There is a massive Global protest scheduled for this Black Friday [0],

Doesn't this type of stuff (eg. anti-capitalism/consumerism protests) happen every black friday? They're always hyped up to be some huge event, but when the day comes it's always underwhelming. The article you linked yourself makes no mention of participants, for instance.

Re: An offshore workforce is training Amazon’s warehouse-monitoring algorithms

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Post by arky527 »

MisterBastahrd wrote: post #15
mkl95 wrote: post #4

Amazon have been providing an offshore workforce as a service for 15+ years, AKA Mechanical Turk

Right? I remember a guy who posted here that received over 2M Stellar XLM crypto by using the Mechanical Turk to pay people to sign up under their personal accounts to receive the 6K freebies per person and transfer their loot to him. At the time, XLM was worth virtually nothing, so getting a buck or two was a decent exchange for some. I think at its height, though, it was worth about 90 cents a token.

At it's height that's still $1.8m for paying ~350 people

Re: An offshore workforce is training Amazon’s warehouse-monitoring algorithms

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Post by incone123 »

ceejayoz wrote: post #30
RektBoy wrote: post #14

Anyone still wondering why there are so many Indian scammers? Why work this BS job for BS money, when you can scam old people and get paid.

Some of the scammers are slaves. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-62792875

Others believe they are legit employees selling a genuine product like anti virus. Can't find a link for this right now though.

Re: An offshore workforce is training Amazon’s warehouse-monitoring algorithms

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Post by Luc »

Semaphor wrote: post #16

> fkey meThis report What’s going on there? Some kind of typo? Slang I never heard? SS in case only I see this: https://i.imgur.com/FP7oO8E.png

Perhaps a mistyped instruction to the content management system, which has resulted in it being rendered on the page instead of interpreted as an instruction?

Re: An offshore workforce is training Amazon’s warehouse-monitoring algorithms

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Post by Melting_Harps »

gruez wrote: post #31
Melting_Harps wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I feel that we are living through Les Misérables again Seems like a speed run of the gilded age to me with the inevitable war theater in Europe and potentially Asia as the back drop for the World Wars that took placce in the 20th Century seems more apt; Amazon is the worst of the FAANGS, and that is saying a lot. It operates under the notion of such an extreme as a 'core value' that it becomes entirely counter-prod…

>Seems like a speed run of the gilded age to me with the inevitable war theater in Europe and potentially Asia as the back drop for the World Wars that took placce in the 20th Century seems more apt; What does workplace monitoring have to do with global conflicts? >There is a massive Global protest scheduled for this Black Friday [0], Doesn't this type of stuff (eg. anti-capitalism/consumerism protests) happen every…

> What does workplace monitoring have to do with global conflicts?

Let me make it clearer: I feel that the sine 2008 we've been living in an era that resembles the gilded age, and that Amazon is the closest analogue to the robber barons (oil and steel) of that time who exploited and ravaged as they pleased. Workplace monitoring doesn't have anything to do with global conflicts, but workplace intimidation is the norm for these type of Industry-titans who feel they can and do get away with anything with a small fine and legal fees.

> Doesn't this type of stuff (eg. anti-capitalism/consumerism protests) happen every black friday? They're always hyped up to be some huge event, but when the day comes it's always underwhelming. The article you linked yourself makes no mention of participants, for instance.

At the Global level, entered entirely towards this grotesque behemothafter the abysmal record for it's labour poliies? No, I don't think it has even reahed this scope. It's less to do with anti-capitalism/consumerism protests as that is what employees these people, on more to do with workplace reform.

This is also worth noting in ase you didn't read it:

Make Amazon Pay, a coalition of workers and activists, is organizing Black Friday protests to demand the retail giant raise wages, pay more taxes and reduce its carbon footprint, according to its website. The strikes are set to take place at factories, warehouses, data centers, corporate offices and oil refineries across the world, including sites in Minnesota, California, Boston and New York City.

Re: An offshore workforce is training Amazon’s warehouse-monitoring algorithms

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Post by supert56 »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #22
supert56 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anyone who believes this is good work and helping the world is deluded. It's full on race to the bottom, treat people like robots, surveillance state stuff.

What is the limit for monitoring? Is a GPS tracker too much? Video too much? My wife is in healthcare and knows how to properly administer vaccine injections so that the kid gets thee best immune response. She has had to notify our clinic that their nurses are not proper administering the vaccine. How would someone audit this if it is not recorded? We have also had doctors write notes stating they checked or discusse…

The line is when surveillance becomes a means to subject people to demeaning conditions.

Re: An offshore workforce is training Amazon’s warehouse-monitoring algorithms

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Post by curiousllama »

hdesh wrote: post #5

> Indian interviewees said they earned 25,000 rupees ($306) per month on average, while the Costa Rican average was 514,000 colones ($843). What explains the difference?

Could be time zones. I recall reading an article about Mechanical Turk that suggested the highest-paying tasks get done the quickest. I wonder if those are often posted on US hours, leaving lower paid tasks for Indian daylight hours.

Re: An offshore workforce is training Amazon’s warehouse-monitoring algorithms

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Post by _8j50 »

jsiepkes wrote: post #38

What I don't understand is why tech people (who have plenty of job opportunities) want to work for a company which does things like this.

The way they treat even their tech people is horrible. I would say either you get paid a fortune or you work there to have amazon on your resume on the way to a better gig.
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