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An offshore workforce is training Amazon’s warehouse-monitoring algorithms

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Re: An offshore workforce is training Amazon’s warehouse-monitoring algorithms

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Apparently they monitor delivery people in the trucks too I sometimes see them working behind the trucks to avoid the cameras inside. World is getting super weird, we are racing to the bottom.

There are likely teams of tech workers maintaining the surveillance tech pipeline at the company. Excluding the people who just don't care, or who enjoy it for the wrong reasons, the rest probably believe that the tech they work on is good and helping the world.

Re: An offshore workforce is training Amazon’s warehouse-monitoring algorithms

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>Amazon said that workers in India had the option to take Diwali off, and the company’s spokesperson Kelly said workers in India and Costa Rica were “encouraged by the software they use to take short breaks throughout their shifts.” It seems like everyone ignores the fact you are supposed to take breaks resulting in health issues. The workers should consider all taking breaks.

The way it's framed, it seems as if it's not possible to be a "good worker" if you take the recommended breaks. Might not be factually true but that's what the article seems to imply.

Good is relative. It's toxic to skip breaks or work extra hours so that you can be the best worker.

Re: An offshore workforce is training Amazon’s warehouse-monitoring algorithms

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Amazon have been providing an offshore workforce as a service for 15+ years, AKA Mechanical Turk

Right? I remember a guy who posted here that received over 2M Stellar XLM crypto by using the Mechanical Turk to pay people to sign up under their personal accounts to receive the 6K freebies per person and transfer their loot to him. At the time, XLM was worth virtually nothing, so getting a buck or two was a decent exchange for some. I think at its height, though, it was worth about 90 cents a token.

Re: An offshore workforce is training Amazon’s warehouse-monitoring algorithms

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Costa Rica has a pretty educated workforce. Probably just demand a higher wage.

Cost of living. To imply that Costa Rica's education is somehow superior to India's is misrepresenting the situation. If in my local market 300 dollars is a pretty good average then I don't have leverage to ask for 800 dollars from the HR department of a billion dollar beast of a company who will create every possible pressure to adjust the offer according to my local market.

But that doesn't explain the incentive for Amazon to hire anyone from Costa Rica at 3x higher salary? If education/skills are the same why not just hire more Indians (or ppl from some other, cheaper Latin America country) and save a lot of money? Hell, they could easily open a center in many parts of Eastern Europe and still hire people for far less than those $800.

Re: An offshore workforce is training Amazon’s warehouse-monitoring algorithms

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The way it's framed, it seems as if it's not possible to be a "good worker" if you take the recommended breaks. Might not be factually true but that's what the article seems to imply.

Good is relative. It's toxic to skip breaks or work extra hours so that you can be the best worker.

That's a privilege of skilled labour unfortunately. With unskilled, easily replaceable work force managers often simply aim to maximally exploit them, and if (when) they burn out they simply hire the next one.

Re: An offshore workforce is training Amazon’s warehouse-monitoring algorithms

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Apparently they monitor delivery people in the trucks too I sometimes see them working behind the trucks to avoid the cameras inside. World is getting super weird, we are racing to the bottom.

There are likely teams of tech workers maintaining the surveillance tech pipeline at the company. Excluding the people who just don't care, or who enjoy it for the wrong reasons, the rest probably believe that the tech they work on is good and helping the world.

Anyone who believes this is good work and helping the world is deluded. It's full on race to the bottom, treat people like robots, surveillance state stuff.
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