Seems like this should have been a requirement before any emergency use authorization, and certainly before any mandates. The fact that this research is just now being done ought to be enough to immediately revoke the FDA emergency use authorizations and pull the product from the shelves. The covid vaccines have been a complete and utter disaster at every level. The erosion of trust in the institutions that are suppo…
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Covid has killed millions. How many have died of myocarditis? While I agree with your sentiment, it's hyperbolic to claim the vaccine has done "exponentially more damage than the virus".
With the way the numbers around Covid and Covid deaths were cooked, there is no way to determine how many died from Covid. Excess mortality is higher now than during Covid https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/why-are-excess-deaths-hi... There is evidence of statistical lies perpetuated to benefit big pharma. - The extreme false positive rate of COVID testing - Blindly combining "of" and "with" Covid cases for cause of…
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> It's recommending it across-the-board that I object to. Early on, the goal was to reach herd immunity while we still had vaccines that were fairly effective at reducing transmission against the variants we had had, before they mutated. But also, I don't know how familiar you are with gov't messaging. But the more widespread you make a message, the less nuanced you can make it. People at large don't take nuance very…
> Early on, the goal was to reach herd immunity while we still had vaccines that were fairly effective at reducing transmission against the variants we had had, before they mutated. The mRNA vaccines weren't even tested for transmission during the early trials. It was impossible to make educated statements about reaching herd immunity through mass vaccination without any data. This did not stop people from introducin…
In hindsight, that was incorrect, but you can't criticize a decision made with limited information with perfect information, and pretend like you would've seen the perfect information at the time. It is reasonable to assume that viruses would be subject to herd immunity, because it's been true for the vast majority of viruses we've interacted with in the past.
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>Obamacare, which was forced upon us The ACA individual mandate penalty was eliminated in 2017.
> The ACA individual mandate penalty was eliminated in 2017. The ACA destroyed the prior insurance market. There is no way we can get what we had before for $650, in terms of cost, coverage and quality of care.
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The issue is that deductibles used to be 1/10 as much before the ACA. And you had the option to buy "emergency only" coverage, which had a high deductible, but a much cheaper premium. These days, because of the ACA all plans are "emergency only", except without the lower premium.
> The issue is that deductibles used to be 1/10 as much before the ACA. And you had the option to buy "emergency only" coverage, which had a high deductible, but a much cheaper premium. They were cheap for a reason. They're back in force, if you want to grab one. I don't advise it. https://www.propublica.org/article/junk-insurance
These days all coverage is emergency only coverage, because of the insanely high deductibles. Except without the benefits of lower premiums.
I am aware that some things improved, but not for the average low risk person.
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#656One of my kids, 15 at the time, was one of the reported cases of myocarditis. At the time of his hospitalization he was one out of 700 cases. He was in the hospital for two weeks. While under observation after his release, we have not seen indications of lasting damage. No way to know what the future holds. So far, so good. We are still not anti-vax at all. In fact, I might go for my next booster today. The one thing…
> Obamacare, which was forced upon us and costs us $2,400 PER MONTH, did not cover it. We have no recourse whatsoever for this incident and any future care requirements. Calling this out as bullshit. Show me a reference. You can get a PLATINUM plan on the California exchanges for less than that for a family--and your co-pay for everything will be under $250. I would also like to point out that "myocarditis" qualifies…
The whole point of the Platinum and Gold plans is that you pay more upfront each month in exchange for lower out-of-pocket expenses when you actually utilize your insurance.
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#657One of my kids, 15 at the time, was one of the reported cases of myocarditis. At the time of his hospitalization he was one out of 700 cases. He was in the hospital for two weeks. While under observation after his release, we have not seen indications of lasting damage. No way to know what the future holds. So far, so good. We are still not anti-vax at all. In fact, I might go for my next booster today. The one thing…
Just did a search on CoveredCA. Monthly premium for Platinum Plans for a family of 4: $1200-1800 for a zero-deductibleplan (range includes Blue Shield, Kaiser, Anthem, Health Net, and OSCAR).
Because, as the CoveredCA website points out: "Platinum and Gold plans have a $0 deductible."
The whole point of the Platinum and Gold plans is that you pay more upfront each month in exchange for lower out-of-pocket expenses when you actually utilize your insurance.
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ACA isn't an insurance plan. What was or wasn't covered, and what your out-of-pocket costs were, have nothing to do with ACA. ACA forced you to pick a plan or face tax penalties, that's all, the rest is on the plan you chose. If you had chosen to not have insurance at all, you'd have paid way more that 10k and maybe even more than what you've put into your premiums already. I pay $1640 a month for full family coverag…
> What was or wasn't covered, and what your out-of-pocket costs were, have nothing to do with ACA. This isn’t true at all, the ACA did a lot of mandating what insurance companies must cover, what maximum deductibles were, etc.
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Because the Big Pharma played the centuries-old trick from a conqueror's handbook: give your vassals a tiny bit of power over their peers, while pillaging the land for profit. So the activists now enjoy the newly given power to bash, shame and deplatform anyone who could be labeled as "antivaxxers", while predictably turning a blind eye towards the hand that gave them that power.
There's a control aspect, but I think the labels are just standard totalitarianism. That maybe 30%~40% of the population (hopefully not more) don't have a spine & just conform to anything in the hopes of social reward. So labelling is just a way to say "I'm not a bad person" when in fact the people who just blindly conform end up solidifying the worst trends in society. It's scapegoating.
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asch_conformity_experiments
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> The issue is that deductibles used to be 1/10 as much before the ACA. And you had the option to buy "emergency only" coverage, which had a high deductible, but a much cheaper premium. They were cheap for a reason. They're back in force, if you want to grab one. I don't advise it. https://www.propublica.org/article/junk-insurance
Do people not remember how insurance was like before the ACA? You actually could get less expensive insurance that actually covered things. Not this junk insurance you're linking to me, which only exists because of the ACA. These days all coverage is emergency only coverage, because of the insanely high deductibles. Except without the benefits of lower premiums. I am aware that some things improved, but not for the a…
I do. My wife and I went bankrupt with it, via $90k in copays and coinsurance.
We had good insurance, but back then insurance could have uncapped costs of this kind. As a bonus, they could a) set a maximum annual and lifetime amount they'd pay and b) decline to renew our coverage, leaving only high-risk pools (4-5x as expensive for premiums) available.
I have a zero-deductible ACA plan. There are plenty of them.