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US annual inflation declines to 7.7% in October vs. 7.9% expected

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Re: US annual inflation declines to 7.7% in October vs. 7.9% expected

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It's a bit higher in Denmark and I have a little too much stored as fiat in the bank. What is a safe asset to store value while inflation is >10% in a developed country?

Inflation linked government bonds from developed countries and your local currency or USD/EUR denomination, depending on your country you may get some tax advantages if you buy local ones. But you should probably have done this long ago, now it may be a bit late.

Re: US annual inflation declines to 7.7% in October vs. 7.9% expected

#83
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It bears repeating because this is a common mistake in inflation discussions: a decrease in inflation metrics means price increases are slowing down, it doesn’t mean that prices are going down (that would require a negative CPI print). Also, this number is year over year, so the decrease just means the price increases between Oct 21 and Oct 22 are not as steep as between Sept 21 to Sept 22, which is not hard to achie…

They effectively said, "The increase went down."

It would have been much clearer for them to say, "The increase has slowed."

Re: US annual inflation declines to 7.7% in October vs. 7.9% expected

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I fee like you're moving the goal post by saying that the well defined metric is not representative of your vision of inflation. unfortunately every person has a different vision and exposture to inflation: folks that rent are going to be affected by rent inflation while home owners won't -- how do you resolve that? well you slice and dice it and dig in. If you think the way you're looking at it has more value than the more general cpi number, then you can engage in arbitrage and make money by taking concrete action in the market (long food commodities/grocery stores short REITs or something.)

Perhaps your angle is more in the vein of Goodhart's law, in which case I'm not sure what kind of market moves one would make with that information.

Re: US annual inflation declines to 7.7% in October vs. 7.9% expected

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It bears repeating because this is a common mistake in inflation discussions: a decrease in inflation metrics means price increases are slowing down, it doesn’t mean that prices are going down (that would require a negative CPI print). Also, this number is year over year, so the decrease just means the price increases between Oct 21 and Oct 22 are not as steep as between Sept 21 to Sept 22, which is not hard to achie…

For the mathematically inclined among us, dp/dt is still positive. It's d^2p/dt^2 that is slightly negative.

Anyone who's ever had to numerically estimate second and higher derivatives from noisy data can appreciate how difficult the Fed's job is.

Re: US annual inflation declines to 7.7% in October vs. 7.9% expected

#86
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It bears repeating because this is a common mistake in inflation discussions: a decrease in inflation metrics means price increases are slowing down, it doesn’t mean that prices are going down (that would require a negative CPI print). Also, this number is year over year, so the decrease just means the price increases between Oct 21 and Oct 22 are not as steep as between Sept 21 to Sept 22, which is not hard to achie…

For the mathematically inclined among us, dp/dt is still positive. It's d^2p/dt^2 that is slightly negative.

For the mathematically inclined, here is a graph of 1/p over the past year:

https://totalrealreturns.com/s/USDOLLAR?start=2021-11-10&end...

or over a longer time period: https://totalrealreturns.com/s/USDOLLAR

(this site is my side project)

If "p" is the relative price level index (CPI-U in this case), then "1/p" represents the relative purchasing power of a single dollar over time -- explained on homepage in more detail.

Re: US annual inflation declines to 7.7% in October vs. 7.9% expected

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you are describing pretty much the Big Mac Index https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Mac_Index

The main objective of the big Mac index is not to measure inflation, it's to measure purchase parity power by using the price of something that is available in almost every country and has a very standard quality.

Re: US annual inflation declines to 7.7% in October vs. 7.9% expected

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It bears repeating because this is a common mistake in inflation discussions: a decrease in inflation metrics means price increases are slowing down, it doesn’t mean that prices are going down (that would require a negative CPI print). Also, this number is year over year, so the decrease just means the price increases between Oct 21 and Oct 22 are not as steep as between Sept 21 to Sept 22, which is not hard to achie…

I.e. the rate of price increase has slowed, not the price increase itself

Prices are still increasing, and they are still increasing fast. It's just that recently, they increased even faster than now.

Re: US annual inflation declines to 7.7% in October vs. 7.9% expected

#89
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no possible way to make an inflation number that works for one person, let alone a whole country. The best you can do is have a statistic that you stay with and compare.

In the early-1990s, political Washington moved to change the nature of the CPI. The contention was that the CPI overstated inflation (it did not allow substitution of less-expensive hamburger for more-expensive steak). Both sides of the aisle and the financial media touted the benefits of a “more-accurate” CPI, one that would allow the substitution of goods and services. The plan was to reduce cost of living adjustme…

Some good points. But, keep in mind, this was in an environment with incredibly low inflation. To the point many econonomists thought the inflation problem had been permanently solved. Of course, they did not factor in future reckless spending and QE policies of future congresses.

Re: US annual inflation declines to 7.7% in October vs. 7.9% expected

#90
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It bears repeating because this is a common mistake in inflation discussions: a decrease in inflation metrics means price increases are slowing down, it doesn’t mean that prices are going down (that would require a negative CPI print). Also, this number is year over year, so the decrease just means the price increases between Oct 21 and Oct 22 are not as steep as between Sept 21 to Sept 22, which is not hard to achie…

For the mathematically inclined among us, dp/dt is still positive. It's d^2p/dt^2 that is slightly negative.

Not really.

It means CPI_oct22 - CPI_oct21 d^2p/dt^2 isn't necessarily negative.

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