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Re: Signal Introduces Stories

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Post by seized »

yunohn wrote: post #237
dont__panic wrote: post #194

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am using an absolutely ancient phone (2016 iphone SE) that's perpetually in low power mode, so it's possible that this isn't a big problem for other iOS users. It's also rather slow on my mac, but I have noticed that my partner's 4a runs it smoothly.

I love HN threads where the complainer is knowingly using an old device on power mode, while complaining about performance… all while the responder is using a custom de-googled niche ROM and claiming somehow it works flawlessly. I always wonder how non-HNers use such software, if even the dedicated people are struggling.

Well as a counterpoint, I have bog standard Pixel 5 still on Android 11 and Signal works perfectly.

Re: Signal Introduces Stories

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Post by agundy »

Vinnl wrote: post #209
agundy wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They recently announced they are removing Sms support on Android which feels vastly more useful for the non-tech crowd.

They kinda were forced to by Android limiting what they can do: https://community.signalusers.org/t/signal-blog-removing-sms...

Great context, though from an end user's perspective it was clear why and just left hanging with "find a new SMS messaging". The integration made adoption/integrating new users easier by allowing some to have one messaging app with progressive security for contacts on Signal.

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Post by nyuszika7h »

TrueDuality wrote: post #148
abdullahkhalids wrote: post #130

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This removed-sms-without-reason is going to be a myth that persists for a while > RCS is coming, and it doesn’t play well with Signal.... and Signal can’t add RCS support because there’s no RCS API on Android. Honestly, the days of any third-party SMS app are numbered. https://community.signalusers.org/t/signal-blog-removing-sms...

While this is true, RCS isn't here yet and when it is there likely will be APIs for it. The argument that there aren't APIs for a feature that isn't present isn't a valid one in my book.

what do you mean "isn't here yet"? it's already a thing in many places

Re: Signal Introduces Stories

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Post by jakecopp »

Well, I suppose the ecosystem is moving [1], and now the ecosystem has moved to stories.

If you had asked your friends to get a Matrix client instead (eg. Element), at least you'd be able to move to a new client [2] if you didn't like the direction it moved in - and you'd still have your group chats and keep your contacts because it's federated.

Unfortunately you're now stuck with stories (or maybe crypto payments one day [3]) because Signal doesn't federate, and likely never will, and the amount of effort to ask your friends to move _again_ is just too big.

This is _exactly_ the argument I make when friends ask why Matrix over Signal. I'm exhausted of picking up and moving again.

[1]: https://signal.org/blog/the-ecosystem-is-moving/ [2]: https://matrix.org/clients/ [3]: https://www.xda-developers.com/signal-crypto-payments-featur...

Re: Signal Introduces Stories

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Post by npteljes »

jakecopp wrote: post #265

Well, I suppose the ecosystem is moving [1], and now the ecosystem has moved to stories. If you had asked your friends to get a Matrix client instead (eg. Element), at least you'd be able to move to a new client [2] if you didn't like the direction it moved in - and you'd still have your group chats and keep your contacts because it's federated. Unfortunately you're now stuck with stories (or maybe crypto payments on…

I hate that protocols became so tightly bundled to client implementations. It's like if the WWW could only be browsed by Chrome. Really unfortunate (for the public) that IM protocol standardizations died over time (FB and Google dropping XMPP for example). Matrix shows some promise with larger adopters like the French government. I'm rooting for them to succeed even more.

Re: Signal Introduces Stories

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Post by corytheboyd »

Of course my first reaction was "I hate this" but then I thought about it and whatever I don't care at all. I downloaded the update and it's a new tab. They don't force it on you at all. They very very clearly state that you can opt-out and how to do it. This was tastefully done, which is fresh air in the world of social media crapware.

Re: Signal Introduces Stories

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Post by Dylan16807 »

Vinnl wrote: post #211
Dylan16807 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Making people juggle a different app for SMS is the opposite of being mainstream friendly.

They didn't have much choice, unfortunately: https://community.signalusers.org/t/signal-blog-removing-sms...

How can there be no RCS API? Eww.

Re: Signal Introduces Stories

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Post by aeturnum »

I'm still extremely disappointed in Signal's choice to drop SMS support, which feels like a key adoption vector to me. However, I'm glad to see that they're still building privacy-first versions of popular social networking features. This does the double-duty of giving privacy conscious folks access to those features and showing that there's no need to invade users' privacy to offer these things - instead when others offer them it is in order to capture more attention and personal information.
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