This is a great way how to keep my friends updated with my life in privacy respecting way. Thank you Signal team. I love you all.
Signal Introduces Stories
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#142Earlier quoted context omitted.
Don't be snarky. Have curious conversation; don't cross-examine. Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community. Edit out swipes [...] Please don't pick the most provocative thing in an article or post to complain about in the thread. Find something interesting to respond to instead. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
It might be a smidge snarky, but it's literally the only justification Signal provides for adding this feature to their app. Why is it not OK to analyze their reasoning?
Because it's not analysis, just generic sneering. Picking N boring things to complain about is not any better than picking one boring thing to complain about.
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#143It’s so frustrating to see every single app out there shamelessly copying this feature from Snapchat.
Why would they have any shame? Snapchat is a horrible app that is only intuitive if you're 13 years old.
That's by design and your comment is high praise
https://www.figma.com/blog/did-snapchat-succeed-because-of-i...
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#144I don't like this: it seems like Signal wants to morph into a social network rather than a secure messaging platform. I predict the next major features will be unencrypted public groups and API messaging access like Telegram has.
Would you rather live in a world where Signal is laser focused on secure messaging to the point where no one uses it? Telegram is growing rapidly because it's adopting social media paradigms. I use both, and I wish I only used Signal.
Telegram is an interesting comparison, because it isn't focused on security at all: it's a social network delivered through an app that looks like a messaging app.
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#145Signals existence was too inconvenient for oppressive governments/law enforcement, so instead they've been subverted.
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#146Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Neither was signal taking your contact list and uploading a copy along with your name and photo and storing that data forever in the cloud. It seems incomplete to not mention that that data is end‐to‐end encrypted, and that name and photo are optional.
In which case it would also be incomplete not to mention that that same data is stored insecurely and protected by an easy to brute force PIN. ( see https://community.signalusers.org/t/proper-secure-value-secu... )
Yes, “though contacts are encrypted, users are not prevented from using a weak PIN” would have been a better way to word this criticism from the start, rather than implying that they are stored completely unencrypted.
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#147Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Lots of reasons recently to develop deep distrust for Signal leadership, and start calling into question whether the app is still legitimately private. How about when Signal started storing people's contacts, their name, their photo, and their phone number in the cloud ignoring cries from their users that Signal should provide a way to opt out and bringing up security concerns, then refusing to update their privacy…
> If you want private/secure consider looking elsewhere. Already on it. Just such a shame that after years of trying to convince friends and family to use signal, I now have to convince them to use something else. Oh well, that might just be the natural circle of life.
I know, I was also a fan and had to go to friends and family and advise against using Signal after I'd told them years ago how great it was. You're right though, every great application seems the grow until it turns to trash and needs to replaced with something else. Very few apps escape that cycle. VLC is one of the good ones holding out.
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#148Removed SMS support and then added stories. Worried about signal's recent direction. Being able to interact with my remaining non-signal contacts was huge. Really going to miss it. In contrast they are now adding a feature I do not care about at all.
This removed-sms-without-reason is going to be a myth that persists for a while > RCS is coming, and it doesn’t play well with Signal.... and Signal can’t add RCS support because there’s no RCS API on Android. Honestly, the days of any third-party SMS app are numbered. https://community.signalusers.org/t/signal-blog-removing-sms...
While this is true, RCS isn't here yet and when it is there likely will be APIs for it. The argument that there aren't APIs for a feature that isn't present isn't a valid one in my book.
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#149I love how Signal (and WhatsApp adopting Signal's protocol) made privacy easy for the general public and technically inclined alike. Privacy will never be the default until it's made easy. I'm guessing some folks won't like use feature because it's too "social media-y" (myself likely included) but as they say in the post: - You can turn the feature off and you won't see other people's stories - You can choose the aud…
> I love how Signal (and WhatsApp adopting Signal's protocol) made privacy easy for the general public and technically inclined alike. Privacy will never be the default until it's made easy. WhatsApp did not really adapt it in privacy mind, to be fair. All metadata is unencrypted. Meta harvests your contact information, intervals and time when you message specific persons. Often, this information is more interesting…
I don't think that's accurate.
Pretty sure both work the same way regarding metadata. Think about it: if Signal didn't know that A was messaging B, how would they route that message to B's phone? A has to be able to find B's ip address someway. B can't broadcast its ip address to all the Signal users -- that would be a huge security hole.
It probably works like this: 1) A sends encrypted message + B's phone number to the server 2) server looks up the ip address for B's phone number 3) server routes the message there.
Also, both WhatsApp and Signal hash the contacts data the same way. Signal does seem to go a bit further, however.
WhatsApp's implementation: https://www.whatsapp.com/legal/information-for-people-who-do... Signal's implementation: https://signal.org/blog/private-contact-discovery/
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#150Signals existence was too inconvenient for oppressive governments/law enforcement, so instead they've been subverted.
https://getsession.org/
* Doesn't require users to provide a phone number.
* Doesn't use centralized servers.
Hopefully Session will stay legit for a while. Just when I get most of my contacts to use Signal, Signal moves to embed a cryptocurrency in the app and starts pushing Storytime.