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Post by Vinnl »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #21
dewey wrote: post #12

I like it! Making it more "mainstream" is the way to go even if purists might say that it's feature bloat for their secure messenger. It's similar to how it's good if more people use Tor for all kinds of activities as it doesn't immediately label you as suspicious just because you use Tor or Signal.

Making people juggle a different app for SMS is the opposite of being mainstream friendly.

They didn't have much choice, unfortunately: https://community.signalusers.org/t/signal-blog-removing-sms...

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Post by aendruk »

jacooper wrote: post #198
rchaud wrote: post #195

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was still using Signal for SMS, and they announced they'd be removing that. So it's gone from my phone. Everybody wants to be Telegram it seems.

I don't understand what Signal had to do SMS. its mainly a Secure messaging app not an SMS client And Telegram is the worst in terms of security and privacy.

It was analogous to the “Messages” app that iPhones have—a single, zero-decision place to go for texting, that opportunistically upgrades privacy without the user having to understand anything.

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Post by RockRobotRock »

somehnacct3757 wrote: post #143
RockRobotRock wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would they have any shame? Snapchat is a horrible app that is only intuitive if you're 13 years old.

That's by design and your comment is high praise https://www.figma.com/blog/did-snapchat-succeed-because-of-i...

Hahaha, you're kind of right. The app peaked in popularity when I was in high school, so of course I used it with everyone else. I can't stand it now, though.

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Post by rafram »

fortylove wrote: post #201

It's been interesting to watch the Signal arc. From tech darling to "why do they think I want this" / "time to move on to what's next".

You would switch to a new, incompatible messaging app because the one you use adds a single feature that you don’t personally want to use?

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Post by [deleted] »

ENOTTY wrote: post #206

The phone contact list becoming the root of trust for defining personal trust relationships is rather unwelcome. Then software taking that data and wordlessly interpreting it as a binary trust/do-not-trust decision is also unwelcome. If I am networking at a conference, I frequently exchange contact info by entering info into each others' contact app or sending each other a text. I'm sure I'm not the only one to do th…

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Post by clankyclanker »

fluidcruft wrote: post #96

I actually like the idea of Stories (vs say a giant group text), but I don't think 24 hours is workable for the people I Signal with because we're not in Signal routinely enough and everything will just delete before anyone sees it. If it were configurable I'd probably set it to a week or a month. Actually, I don't know why they would fix the time at 24hrs. We've always been able to set the time period for disappeari…

Is that 24h after receipt, or 24h after opening? I believe their text messages use the latter system and would expect the video ones to do the same.

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Post by izacus »

tptacek wrote: post #20
mcjiggerlog wrote: post #9

Personally I'd rather avoid the feature bloat. I also think it just waters-down the "secure" image they are clearly going for. I mean, broadcasting images to your contact list isn't exactly what I think of when I think "private messaging".

Everything about Signal will make more sense if you forget every opinion you've had or read on a message board, and accept that the project's mission is simply to transition as many people off insecure systems as they can. For example: message board nerds are apoplectic about Signal's phone number requirement, but the systems ordinary people were already overwhelmingly used phone numbers already. As communications tr…

If that's true, why do they refuse to implement backups so normal people don't lose data when their phone breaks or the app bugs out?

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Post by falcolas »

GycDH6mb wrote: post #192
mcjiggerlog wrote: post #9

Personally I'd rather avoid the feature bloat. I also think it just waters-down the "secure" image they are clearly going for. I mean, broadcasting images to your contact list isn't exactly what I think of when I think "private messaging".

They actually allow you to turn off stories in settings, and that entire tab will just disappear. You have to respect that!

My curmudgeonly self would prefer if the stories were off by default. It's not a feature I'm even remotely interested in, and feature creep really isn't a positive thing.

I've tried snapchat and Instagram stories, and I hate that the messages disappear with time. It seems counter-intuitive for an asynchronous communication method, and that doesn't even count how it always feels like another FOMO marketing gag to keep you engaged with the app.

Just let people delete posts (and really delete them to boot).

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Post by aendruk »

abdullahkhalids wrote: post #130
n8ta wrote: post #65

Removed SMS support and then added stories. Worried about signal's recent direction. Being able to interact with my remaining non-signal contacts was huge. Really going to miss it. In contrast they are now adding a feature I do not care about at all.

This removed-sms-without-reason is going to be a myth that persists for a while > RCS is coming, and it doesn’t play well with Signal.... and Signal can’t add RCS support because there’s no RCS API on Android. Honestly, the days of any third-party SMS app are numbered. https://community.signalusers.org/t/signal-blog-removing-sms...

It would help to dispel that “myth” if Our reasoning: Why we’re removing SMS support mentioned RCS at all.

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Post by iueotnmunto »

sigmar wrote: post #179

I'm curious how it encrypts. I've got 500 "Signal connections"... Does it do them all at once (with some kind of "group key" like in group chat) and in a way that can be decrypted by any of the individual keys? Can't find any details on github or the official forum...

I've always thought creating a shared key which rotates as soon as a single individual is added or removed is smart. There are security implications related to whose decryption key leaked, not sure if that's a legitimate threat model for almost any scenario though.
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