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Rage Against The Machine’s explosive debut album changed everything

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Post by gorgoiler »

Tom Morello’s ability to make an electric guitar sound like a completely new instrument is absolutely incredible, and is more than enough to earn him the title of hacker.

The format of a lot of Rage and Audioslave music was great for showcasing the “…and now for something completely different” Morello guitar solo, where you pretty much get to hear something unique every time.

The Python reference feels pretty apt given how much Terry Gilliam was both part-of- as well as completely-different-to- the rest of the troupe.

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Post by danielvaughn »

I’ll never forget this YouTube video of one of their early performances. It was in I think a record store. Just imagine being some kids in a band, playing to a small crowd in some store. And yet, they brought so much fucking energy they may as well have been playing in Madison Square Garden. Truly amazing to watch:

https://youtu.be/bQ8YAv2rcQU

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Post by yucky »

yeahwhatever10 wrote: post #6

Never understand how the Beastie Boys don't get more acknowledgement for contributing to the sound that RATM used.

I always felt like they borrowed heavily from Public Enemy. PE had the rap/rock fusion down in 1986/7. Listen to songs like Sophisticated Bitch or She Watch Channel Zero with Vernon Reid (of Living Color) on guitar, or the Bring The Noise track with Anthrax, all of which predates RATM by a mile.

Public Enemy had a unique sound never really rivalled by anybody and they lived and breathed fighting the power.

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

keeganpoppen wrote: post #48
afavour wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The number of replies that aren’t getting the sarcasm here blows my mind

alas, humor is not allowed on HN

Someone might be wrong! And we can not have that.

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Post by ninjin »

at-fates-hands wrote: post #115
sosborn wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Body Count was ahead of them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_Count_(band)

When that first Body Count album came out, it was like a nuke going off across the country and huge wake up call for anybody who didn't know what was going on routinely in South Central and surrounding areas with the LAPD and the black community. Weirder still was when Rodney King happened you had a whole bunch of suburban white parents who were shocked at what happened. I remember myself and all my friends were like…

Body Count really was and is something special. I discovered them far later than I discovered Rage, but they really are putting out gems even now with “No Lives Matters” [1] in 2017 and their take on Ice-T’s “Colors” in 2020 [2]. Apparently there is a new album in the works and I certainly hope they will continue putting out excellent music and social commentary of a kind you otherwise would only see coming out of hip hop.

[1]: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ww3VAh-aPds

[2]: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Mlj-I7Ak-YM

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Post by benbristow »

pmarreck wrote: post #134
benbristow wrote: post #125

Rage Against The Machine... the group that said "f*** you I won't do what they tell you", but then played shows that required you to show a government mandated vaccine passport to go to their shows. Hard to take them seriously afterwards.

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I’m sorry about the people you knew, truly.

But I disagree with the argument you gave afterwards about “anyone who cares about other humans get vaccinated” because the vaccine does barely anything to stop the spread.

Even Pfizer themselves admitted they never even tested that statement before they rolled out the jabs.

https://www.news.com.au/technology/science/human-body/pfizer...

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Post by acomjean »

ninjin wrote: post #145
at-fates-hands wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When that first Body Count album came out, it was like a nuke going off across the country and huge wake up call for anybody who didn't know what was going on routinely in South Central and surrounding areas with the LAPD and the black community. Weirder still was when Rodney King happened you had a whole bunch of suburban white parents who were shocked at what happened. I remember myself and all my friends were like…

Body Count really was and is something special. I discovered them far later than I discovered Rage, but they really are putting out gems even now with “No Lives Matters” [1] in 2017 and their take on Ice-T’s “Colors” in 2020 [2]. Apparently there is a new album in the works and I certainly hope they will continue putting out excellent music and social commentary of a kind you otherwise would only see coming out of hi…

I discovered rage because they gave out tapes at a body count concert and a friend picked one up. Rage was the opening band.

I have the original body count cd, I got on release day. They had one and they had to go looking for it in the back. I believe it was the same day as Bruce Springsteens double album.

We saw Rage at UMass student Union ballroom and Body Count later that year at a club in Amherst. Those 90s had some good shows.

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Post by sdenton4 »

nyokodo wrote: post #101
jvanderbot wrote: post #37

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I do think music's effects are underappreciated. You can hear about plenty of artists uniting or representing a movement in the USA esp 60s. The story of Rodriguez is one of my favorites. He literally had no idea he had been the root of music for social change in Apartheid South Africa. https://www.npr.org/2012/07/28/157478577/rodriguez-forgotten... "The first white anti-Apartheid movement derived [inspiration] from…

> artists uniting or representing a movement in the USA esp 60s. They sold music to the huge boomer population when they were young, by the 1980s those same Boomers voted for Reagan in considerable numbers and were buying Debbie Gibson and Rod Stewart albums. RATM sold music to pissed off GenXers when they were young, by 2020 they were voting for Biden. It’s not revolution, it’s youthful angst that gives way to respo…

I really don't think gen-xers voting for Biden is in any way analysis to boomers voting for Reagan. I think this is the dominant sentiment on Biden: https://youtu.be/KGmXGkIr7w0 He's a stop gap against fascism.

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Post by wefarrell »

blindriver wrote: post #3

I've been a huge fan of RATM since the early 90s, but I don't think that "A brand new band mixing metal and hip hop like no one had done before" is quite true. My understanding is that the music scene in LA had a lot of bands like this. I believe the band Downset pre-dates them, and they had a big hit called "Anger". I only wish they had a bigger impact in politics. For all of their incredible songs, almost nothing c…

Have you ever seen the music video for Testify? The gist is that Bush and Gore were identical candidates with essentially the same positions and it ends with a tacit endorsement of Nader. In hindsight Bush and Gore were not the same and the candidacy of Nader was harmful.

Their politics would have been more effective had they urged young people to rage within the system, but the rebellious message is clearly more appealing.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3dvbM6Pias

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