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Rage Against The Machine’s explosive debut album changed everything

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Who was absolutely amazed when started the final song of The Matrix? One of the most brilliant moment of [my] cinema history.

The movie was already great and Wake Up was the perfect song to end it (both soncially and the context of it)

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I've been a huge fan of RATM since the early 90s, but I don't think that "A brand new band mixing metal and hip hop like no one had done before" is quite true. My understanding is that the music scene in LA had a lot of bands like this. I believe the band Downset pre-dates them, and they had a big hit called "Anger". I only wish they had a bigger impact in politics. For all of their incredible songs, almost nothing c…

They had a tremendous effect on many young peoples politics at the time. At least on my politics. That is much more than most political bands by a wide margin. Anyway, I don’t really think music can have a big effect on politics per se, but music can be important for political movements.

I remember being in high school and my soccer teammate was having people over for a party. He put on RATM and told me, "This band, you're not going to believe it, they don't sound like anything out there right now. Plus, listen the lyrics dude, they're super heavy!"

That first track Bombtrack and then Killing In The Name and that was it, I was hooked.

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post #21

So, I’m sitting here in a small town in Uruguay on the coast. I’m American and I’m thinking about this third world country (please, this is how they refer to themselves - not as a developing nation, so just hard stop right there) and I’m thinking about where we are as humans, are heading. Well, as my father said tonight, history doesn’t repeat, it rhymes…here we are. What is going on??? I try and try as someone who g…

Are you saying that it's coming back around again?

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post #11

I've been a huge fan of RATM since the early 90s, but I don't think that "A brand new band mixing metal and hip hop like no one had done before" is quite true. My understanding is that the music scene in LA had a lot of bands like this. I believe the band Downset pre-dates them, and they had a big hit called "Anger". I only wish they had a bigger impact in politics. For all of their incredible songs, almost nothing c…

Downset was heavily influenced by Zach’s old band Inside Out. I was in an old hardcore band from that era and know Ray and played with shows with Inside Out. Updated for autocorrected error.

Don’t forget about Urban Dance Squad. I feel like RwTM stole a lot of their style and packaged it for MTV consumption.

RwTM has always sounded a bit watered-down, appealing to aimless teenage angst and class struggle fantasy. In reality , Zach de La Rocha has activism royalty in his lineage and Morello is a limo liberal.

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I've been a huge fan of RATM since the early 90s, but I don't think that "A brand new band mixing metal and hip hop like no one had done before" is quite true. My understanding is that the music scene in LA had a lot of bands like this. I believe the band Downset pre-dates them, and they had a big hit called "Anger". I only wish they had a bigger impact in politics. For all of their incredible songs, almost nothing c…

Body Count was ahead of them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_Count_(band)

When that first Body Count album came out, it was like a nuke going off across the country and huge wake up call for anybody who didn't know what was going on routinely in South Central and surrounding areas with the LAPD and the black community.

Weirder still was when Rodney King happened you had a whole bunch of suburban white parents who were shocked at what happened. I remember myself and all my friends were like, "Welcome to the party, Ice T, NWA and other groups have been talking about this for years!" We already knew about police brutality as teenagers well before our parents did. It was an odd juxtaposition.

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Zack: "...we’re dealing with this huge, monstrous pop culture that has a tendency to suck everything that is culturally resistant to it into it in order to pacify it and make it non-threatening."

I'm convinced that's not an organic natural phenomenon, but rather a feature of the corporate-state partnership between movie and music producers, the corporations and shareholders that largely control them, and the bureaucrats and politicians who don't like to be criticized by popular artists. It's pretty clear that new acts with such political messages no longer get record deals; that's why rap and hip-hop turned into a celebration of ostentatious consumption in the USA - although acts similar to Rage Against the Machine are more common in Europe, they're mostly industrial/metal acts, such as, for example, Arch Enemy, The World is Yours:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk2-bgwA0Ro

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post #28

Never understand how the Beastie Boys don't get more acknowledgement for contributing to the sound that RATM used.

The Beastie Boys were never out to change things. They wanted to have fun and gave us the best live performance of a one chord song ever: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZ5yKJlhbiA

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I've been a huge fan of RATM since the early 90s, but I don't think that "A brand new band mixing metal and hip hop like no one had done before" is quite true. My understanding is that the music scene in LA had a lot of bands like this. I believe the band Downset pre-dates them, and they had a big hit called "Anger". I only wish they had a bigger impact in politics. For all of their incredible songs, almost nothing c…

NOFX had their politically awakening during the Bush years and produced their best work with War on Errrorism during this time.

I prefer their earlier stuff but “The Separation of Church and Skate” is such a banger.
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