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Re: Twitter faces a class action lawsuit over mass employee layoffs with proper

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Post by selectodude »

WilTimSon wrote: post #135
selectodude wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In a drug-induced haze, Elon offered to buy Twitter at a price that was a weed meme and after sobering up, went on a full court press in the media to get out of his deal. It required a absolute shitpounding in the Delaware court of chancery for him to cop to the legal obligations he clearly wasn't aware of. What on earth has this man done to make you think that he knows his legal obligations?

He doesn't have to know them, he probably has enough management and lawyers on retainer to warn him about stuff like that. It's highly unlikely they haven't warned him about this.

Of course he does. But he tends to just do shit and let his lawyers figure it out later. Speculating from his past behavior, he almost certainly just fired everybody and his lawyers were like "yeah, you can't just do that, you have to do x, y, and z as well". At least this time, it seems that he's going to actually listen to his lawyers and pay out the garden leave.

Re: Twitter faces a class action lawsuit over mass employee layoffs with proper

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Post by justapassenger »

WilTimSon wrote: post #135
selectodude wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In a drug-induced haze, Elon offered to buy Twitter at a price that was a weed meme and after sobering up, went on a full court press in the media to get out of his deal. It required a absolute shitpounding in the Delaware court of chancery for him to cop to the legal obligations he clearly wasn't aware of. What on earth has this man done to make you think that he knows his legal obligations?

He doesn't have to know them, he probably has enough management and lawyers on retainer to warn him about stuff like that. It's highly unlikely they haven't warned him about this.

He’s always smartest guy in the room, and will do whatever he wants. He may share same future as previous smartest guys in the room.

Re: Twitter faces a class action lawsuit over mass employee layoffs with proper

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Post by saagarjha »

WilTimSon wrote: post #135
selectodude wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In a drug-induced haze, Elon offered to buy Twitter at a price that was a weed meme and after sobering up, went on a full court press in the media to get out of his deal. It required a absolute shitpounding in the Delaware court of chancery for him to cop to the legal obligations he clearly wasn't aware of. What on earth has this man done to make you think that he knows his legal obligations?

He doesn't have to know them, he probably has enough management and lawyers on retainer to warn him about stuff like that. It's highly unlikely they haven't warned him about this.

And you think he listens to them?

Re: Twitter faces a class action lawsuit over mass employee layoffs with proper

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Post by GaylordTuring »

renonn wrote: post #84
bedast wrote: post #65

Musk is openly antagonistic to any kind of regulation and regulatory bodies. This is all a game to him. Any fines he faces are the price of having fun, to him. It's why whether Twitter succeeds or fails is a moot point. He doesn't actually care about Twitter. It's a toy. It's an RC plane he's flying around, right now, and it's just a matter of time before he intentionally aims it into the ground to see how big of an…

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Re: Twitter faces a class action lawsuit over mass employee layoffs with proper

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Post by themadturk »

notyourwork wrote: post #97
falcolas wrote: post #73

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California is at-will. And it still requires 60 days notice for a mass-layoff, thorough a separate act, because it's a special case that's covered by a separate law. > “an employer may not order a mass layoff, relocation, or termination at a covered establishment unless, 60 days before the order takes effect, the employer gives written notice of the order” https://www.dir.ca.gov/dlse/Cal-WARNAct.html

Without sounding dumb, this is saying that a company has to tell you 60 days ahead of time that in 60 days they will fire you? edit: Thank you for the clarification, appreciate the added insights.

You also have to remember that being "laid off" is different than "being fired," at least under the law. I'm not sure where the line is drawn for "mass layoff," but these people aren't being fired for cause, or being let go individually at the whim of the employer (which is kind of what "at will" means for the employer).

Re: Twitter faces a class action lawsuit over mass employee layoffs with proper

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Post by Firmwarrior »

BlargMcLarg wrote: post #137
ifyoubuildit wrote: post #130

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Yeah, it sounds like he's complying, which seems like the obvious thing to do. I get that emotions are understandably high, and people think he's some kind of super villain/buffoon simultaneously, but how would it make any sense for him to make that kind of obvious blunder?

The guy is kind of known for making obvious blunders out of the blue or at least acting like he is above things.

I feel like he'd get a lot of pushback all the way up and down the chain of command on this particular blunder, though. It'd be like trying to throw your car into reverse on the highway.. just because you can try to issue the command doesn't mean it'll get carried out

Re: Twitter faces a class action lawsuit over mass employee layoffs with proper

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Post by bena »

postalrat wrote: post #146
kenjackson wrote: post #79

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If that's the case, I bet the Twitter employees who still have a job, wish they got laid off. 60 days of pay is better than just resigning, which is what I'm sure I would do.

Whats stopping you from resigning right now?

I would imagine needing the paycheck.

Those who were put on garden leave have 3 months of pay to lean on while they search.

Those who were not, if they quit, their pay ends that day. They'd have whatever savings they have.

Re: Twitter faces a class action lawsuit over mass employee layoffs with proper

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Post by ceejayoz »

Firmwarrior wrote: post #150
ceejayoz wrote: post #80

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> you don't get to that level of businessmen without making all the right decisions C'mon; he literally just tried desperately to get out of the Twitter deal that's the direct cause of these layoffs. Jeff Bezos's decisions about where to stick his weiner cost him tens of billions of dollars. No one makes "all the right decisions".

If I may white knight for one of the most powerful men in history for a moment: It's entirely possible that Bezos and his wife just drifted apart over the decades and separated amicably. And half of that fortune was always Mackenzie's from the start, that's how marriage works in the USA.

They announced the divorce one day prior to his having an affair hitting the news cycle.

Re: Twitter faces a class action lawsuit over mass employee layoffs with proper

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Post by blindriver »

mikestew wrote: post #16

Can we please fix the title? Not only is it incomplete and makes no sense, it also got butchered such that it is now wrong. Original: "Twitter faces a class action lawsuit over mass employee layoffs without proper legal notice" At least replace the "with" with "without".

It's also wrong. According to the email they received, they are getting paid until Feb 2023, plus one vest of their RSUs from what I heard. There is no legal basis for a lawsuit.
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