The "move fast and break things" crowd cries foul when they happen to be the thing that gets broke.
Funny how that works.
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Re: Twitter faces a class action lawsuit over mass employee layoffs with proper
#122Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's almost as if Elon is being sued to ensure that he follows through with his obligations, since he's so consistently doesn't. Strange. It's like there is a purpose to the lawsuit.
Preemptive lawsuit's. To further tie up an already overburdened legal system. I like how you think, my man.
There's nothing overburdened about the civil court system, because the participants in it are largely responsible for paying for it.
The criminal court system (and public defenders in particular) are another story.
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#123Earlier quoted context omitted.
The original title is 11 characters too long for submission.
I didn't ask for the original title, I asked that the title be fixed. As an example, removing "mass employee" gets under the limit and leaves a title that's a lot more clear than what's up there now. "Twitter faces lawsuit..." gets you there, several ways of shortening without losing much meaning. HN guidelines ask that the original be used. But if original is too long, we should at least try to leave something that…
Agree w/ your point, and your suggested title.
Looking at the slug, it seems like TFA might have originally butchered, and later changed the title, too.
Re: Twitter faces a class action lawsuit over mass employee layoffs with proper
#124Musk is openly antagonistic to any kind of regulation and regulatory bodies. This is all a game to him. Any fines he faces are the price of having fun, to him. It's why whether Twitter succeeds or fails is a moot point. He doesn't actually care about Twitter. It's a toy. It's an RC plane he's flying around, right now, and it's just a matter of time before he intentionally aims it into the ground to see how big of an…
wouldn't that damage his reputation as a credible CEO? Not sure if a billionaire would care, but still, he holds the office of the CEO in a few companies.
> wouldn't that damage his reputation as a credible CEO?
Elon Musk? A credible CEO?
And here I was thinking shitposting wasn't allowed on HN.
Re: Twitter faces a class action lawsuit over mass employee layoffs with proper
#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
The person suing got their termination notification on 11/1 so I imaging they know more about what their termination actually entails than you or I do. Also Musk consistently pushes and oversteps the legal boundaries of what he can and can't do to get his way. Him being in charge of Twitter at all is because he was forced to execute a contract he willingly signed what makes you think he'll be more calmly compliant to…
pb7 is probably correct here, as they are in many things. Elon probably knows what he's doing, you don't get to that level of businessmen without making all the right decisions.
This is insane. We don't live in a meritocracy. The idea that someone only gets to that level of wealth and business ownership because they make good decisions or understand the laws or requirements isn't something you can demonstrate with any consistency. Deciding to simply trust that he is correct because of his status is a dangerous game to play.
Re: Twitter faces a class action lawsuit over mass employee layoffs with proper
#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
The original title is 11 characters too long for submission.
I didn't ask for the original title, I asked that the title be fixed. As an example, removing "mass employee" gets under the limit and leaves a title that's a lot more clear than what's up there now. "Twitter faces lawsuit..." gets you there, several ways of shortening without losing much meaning. HN guidelines ask that the original be used. But if original is too long, we should at least try to leave something that…
My mistake, I read you comment erroneously. Sorry.
Re: Twitter faces a class action lawsuit over mass employee layoffs with proper
#127Knowing the possible shitstorm it would cause, Twitter upper management sold the company anyway. Not that they care, they got fabulously wealthy off the deal.
Shareholders were being offered a very nice premium on the stock price, so Twitter upper management would have been awash in shareholder lawsuits if they'd rejected the deal. Essentially, the Twitter board was snookered once Musk made a serious offer.
I'm curious if this (lawsuits) has happened before.
Re: Twitter faces a class action lawsuit over mass employee layoffs with proper
#128All of my layoffs had post termination pay to satisfy federal and state law. HR stressed that we were on salary (without working) during the termination period and that leaving would negate benefits. Once this period ended, there were usual benefits like n weeks per year of employment. Blatantly ignoring the rules just invites lawsuits and weakens em’s position. Sux how rules and established norms of behaviour restri…
Just curious which state was that where they had to give severance? I'm in a US state that does not require anything after termination.
There is the WARN act which is a federal law. But that only applies to larger companies and mass layoffs.
Re: Twitter faces a class action lawsuit over mass employee layoffs with proper
#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
pb7 is probably correct here, as they are in many things. Elon probably knows what he's doing, you don't get to that level of businessmen without making all the right decisions.
> you don't get to that level of businessmen without making all the right decisions C'mon; he literally just tried desperately to get out of the Twitter deal that's the direct cause of these layoffs. Jeff Bezos's decisions about where to stick his weiner cost him tens of billions of dollars. No one makes "all the right decisions".
People try and get out of deals all the time. It's a normal part of business.
Edit: I take it many of you haven't been a part of a company that gets an offer that falls apart later, tried to buy/sell property, etc etc. Deals fall apart constantly, trying to get out of a deal isn't indicative of anything meaningful in and of itself. The only really unusual thing that happened in the Twitter deal was Twitter forcing the consummation.
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#130Earlier quoted context omitted.
From what I hear from my personal connections at Twitter. They will be given 60 days pay so he is circumventing that California law.
> so he is circumventing that California law Not a Musk fan, but "circumventing" feels a bit weird when he's basically acting in the spirit of it?
Yeah, it sounds like he's complying, which seems like the obvious thing to do. I get that emotions are understandably high, and people think he's some kind of super villain/buffoon simultaneously, but how would it make any sense for him to make that kind of obvious blunder?