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What wireless tech could run 2 x (2000 x 2040) X 120Hz displays?
WiFi 7 can. The tech will evolve. I assume the next generation will be wireless.
Playstation VR2
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You might not know this but the Meta/Oculus Quest 2 (120Hz) has existed since 2020. I got my Quest 2, 2 years ago, when it was still labeled Oculus on the box, for 350 Euros. I think now it's 450 Euros, inflation and all, but at least the storage is double at 128GB. Great device, saved my sanity during the winter lockdowns.
Ok right, but the current Oculus model is $1500.
And the Quest 2 alone is superior to the PSVR since it has the "gaming console" built in, while being far cheaper than the PSVR whiteout even accounting for the extra cost of the PS5 in the equation.
Pricing aside, Meta had a decent product with the Quest 2, as they went all-in and it was designed form the start as a stand alone cordless platform and focused and polished the entre VR gaming experience around that from the ground up even buying dedicated VR game dev studios, while for Sony, the PSVR is just a corded accessory to the stationary PS5, but not the main product and so it's not their main focus for PS5 gaming, and we'll see this reflected in the amount and quality of VR titles they'll put out.
The PSVR does win in the graphics department thanks to the processing power of the PS5 but that comes at the cost of reduce mobility thanks to the stupid cable keeping your head tied to the PS5 and ruining your immersion. In fact, I'm calling it right now: the cable tether will make it a fail for most users. I expect the return rates to be high followed by low retail sales and people dumping them on ebay after a few months of gathering dust, same like with the last PSVR they made. It will flop as hard as the Quest Pro.
For people wanting to dip their toes in VR and play Beat Sabre and Pistol Whip, 450 Euros is far easier to stomach than invest 1300+ Euros in a PlayStation VR setup and then hate it because you'll always have to take care of not tangling yourself or tripping on the cable. We saw the same with Valve's VR gear. People just didn't want to put up with the hassle of having an expensive and corded setup just to play Half-Life Alyx.
Meta/Oculus moved the goalposts so far with their cordless self-contained devices, that any new VR gear still needing cables and a separate PC/console to function is an instant fail. I expect Apple's VR gear will also be cordless, powered by their excellent mobile Mx chips.
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That’s why I didn’t mention them. They’re like Rolls Royce where they build expensive toys for people with discretionary cash. Most normal people outside of Silicon Valley do not have the resources to justify spending about $3,000 on a complete PCVR setup
I have the disposable income I cant justify it because I can’t multitask and also I have to also pay for glasses inserts. I want to play a space based VR game but I don’t see one out. I have a stand-alone headset (a oculus quest 2) and I don’t even play it.
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#164Even as somebody whose game of the year for this year is Horizon 2, I'm unsure about paying $600 for a Horizon spinoff coming out at the same time as the Harry Potter RPG. I expect it to be sitting on the shelf for MSRP at your local Walmart, Target, GameStop or Best Buy on launch day and basically every day afterwards. The fact that I'm unsure whether or not I'll even bother preordering it or just wait until I'm ready to play Horizon is not a good sign.
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#165Earlier quoted context omitted.
That’s why I didn’t mention them. They’re like Rolls Royce where they build expensive toys for people with discretionary cash. Most normal people outside of Silicon Valley do not have the resources to justify spending about $3,000 on a complete PCVR setup
I have the disposable income I cant justify it because I can’t multitask and also I have to also pay for glasses inserts. I want to play a space based VR game but I don’t see one out. I have a stand-alone headset (a oculus quest 2) and I don’t even play it.
My eyesight is _just_ able to play without glasses inserts, so I marginally feel your pain. I wish I could use my glasses. Maybe it's time I pulled out contacts again.
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#166The problem I see is my PSVR1 is dusty because I'm bored with it. It was a cool experience and battlezone was fun but maybe 20 hours in and I'm done and its dusty. The marketing solution to the PSVR1 being boring is "its got more pixels and no backwards compatibility". That message is just not going to sell to upgraders like me. "It costs more" is not going to sell to people who couldn't/wouldn't pay for the PSVR1. S…
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Apple is the worst thing that could happen to VR. Facebook may be 'toxic' but the Meta is cheap, amazing, supports Air Link for PC, even has cross-play (buy a Quest game, play it on PC at better graphics). Privacy options, they -removed- Facebook login, you can sideload apps. Tacit support for modding games like Beat Saber. Apple would turn their headset into a walled garden with no ability to run custom apps and def…
>>Apple is the worst thing that could happen to VR Like they were for MP3 players, Smartphones, expensive headphones and Smartwatches?
Yes, I use Android.
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#168As a Vive VR owner going on ~6 years with that setup, yeah I don't know why anyone would spend as much as a PS5 for a VR headset. I really like some aspects of VR gaming, but overall, for me at least, it's pretty clear it's a very niche device. There are a few genres that translate reasonable well to VR but most of the big categories do not. Things like sports game (Madden, NBA 22/23, NHL 22/23,etc), likely impossibl…
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#169The problem for PSVR2 is that the first one didn't really have any must-play games and the 2nd one's only game of note at launch is Horizon which is notorious for always releasing at the same time as some other action RPG that the mass market goes nuts for (Zelda and that Dark Souls game written by the Game of Thrones guy). It also doesn't help that there's no backward compatibility with PSVR1 games (that would allow…
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#170I’m hoping with the PSVR2 launch that people will finally realize that the metaverse consists of way more than just meta and Horizon. The current complaints on how the metaverse sucks are like if people only visited Yahoo’s homepage and decided that it was the entire internet and that the entire internet was terrible. It’s a ridiculous way to evaluate an entire ecosystem, but in their defense at least they took 5 min…
Meta built an amazing, affordable product, but their brand is just so toxic that it’ll take a generational change before it can eventually recover its good will and people in developed countries trust it again. It's not their brand per se that's the issue, but the fact that their headsets were bricks unless you had signed up for a Facebook account with all the issues that come with that, from privacy concerns to gett…
Source: never had Facebook, but have had Quests