They can checkout any time they like, but they can never leave. Welcome to Disneyland Shanghai, such a lovely place
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#102They're still able to have fun there. Rides continue to work :) On the other side, in some parts of Europe there's a discussion to let the infected go to work (even with symptoms and of course, if one's feeling capable of work) - but, still, go to work with other infected/work with infected. I can understand that with so high density in people even one infection can lead to big massive spreads and thus to overloaded…
Here in the Netherlands, it may not be policy, but a large number of people just don't care anymore. People with symptoms like coughing and changing tone of voice are still going to school, work and parties. No one wears masks except for some tourists or other foreigners. When planning an event, not a single moment is thought about COVID.
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#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
> washing hands I always thought the pandemic will make fist bumps or other forms of greetings “mainstream”. But everyone (I know) have reverted back to hand shakes. I guessing the same with Covid hygiene measures. > get the vaccine without turning into political drama all over Twitter. Like the majority of the people not taking the vaccine are on Twitter or do so because of social media drama.
I personally had hoped the pan demic would normalize the wearing of gloves when in public, to be taken off as needed to eat, etc. But here we are. [Edited to explicitly indicate that this was a satirical post]
This is the reason you are not the one writing policies. How would wearing gloves help? You are not getting ill from having COVID on your hands.
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#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
I personally had hoped the pan demic would normalize the wearing of gloves when in public, to be taken off as needed to eat, etc. But here we are. [Edited to explicitly indicate that this was a satirical post]
This is the reason you are not the one writing policies. How would wearing gloves help? You are not getting ill from having COVID on your hands.
Not only that, unless you constantly change gloves they provide little protection since you can still touch multiple people and touch your face with gloves on.
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#105covid zero is getting more and more like economy zero.
Those running China know this, so why is it continuing
The CCP would rather destroy the economy and imprison their population, than backtrack on a policy, admit they were wrong, and face humiliation.
Protecting the government image is paramount in totalitarianism.
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#106Every time I see events like this happen, I get extremely skeptical of the idea that China will somehow replace the US as leader of the world. I’m not sure if I’m justified in thinking so, but I just cannot imagine actions like this leading to a creative, innovative culture.
CCP don’t want to lead the world. CCP needs to lead China through all means necessary and global trade is necessary for that.
“ In his three-and-a-half-hour political report to the Party’s 2,300 top officials, Xi laid out a vision for China to lead the world in everything from science and technology, to modern weaponry and military might, to providing a model of economic development and governance for other countries to follow.”
https://apcoworldwide.com/blog/xi-jinpings-new-era-of-global...
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#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
I personally had hoped the pan demic would normalize the wearing of gloves when in public, to be taken off as needed to eat, etc. But here we are. [Edited to explicitly indicate that this was a satirical post]
Some people here in HN said that the pandemic would normalise using masks - the way things are now every time I see someone wearing a mask I can’t help but think that they are ill and infectious; it’s very very rare. So glad that we are back to the way it was.
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#108Report is rather sensationalized like much on the reports from BBC, and does not provide closure on the story.
From another news source (CBS):
"The park closed Monday for testing of staff and visitors, Walt Disney Co. and the government said in separate statements. The city health bureau said guests all tested negative and were allowed to leave by 8:30 p.m., but one visitor from elsewhere in China told the Reuters news agency she didn't make it out until 10 p.m.".
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/shanghai-disneyland-closed-...
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#109Earlier quoted context omitted.
> All I am seeing on HN are people being careful to not offend, but at some point it stops being "cultural differences". That's exactly my problem, too. Thankfully, someone in the replies to the tweet you sent finishes his sentence without ellipses. "Which is more sad: that they are locked up, or that they allow themselves to be locked up?" But this time he hides behind the rhetorical question mark! Just say the two…
> "Chinese people are docile and weak" and "Chinese people are evil, greedy liars." No one is saying Chinese people are evil. My advice to you would be to stop making strawmans like this, that's not what people mean when they expose these atrocities. The CCP is the problem here and the authorities that are expunging basic civil rights in the name of COVID needs to be condemned. COVID is an excuse to control the popul…
That's right. So the "cultural difference" you were referring to is the capacity to commit horrendous atrocities against basic civil rights that the West is too benevolent to grasp. You just used the words "expunging basic civil rights" and "atrocities" instead of "evil." You're one step further in the logical progression than the people you were annoyed with in your first reply to me.
This unfolding progression is why we cannot take people at face value about what they "really mean." People don't know what they mean! See below: "I honestly couldn't imagine people in the West putting up with that, however I'm yet to fully understand why Chinese people continue to suffer the rules without riot." See? They don't understand it. Why not? What is being repressed, that their conscious could form these highly abstract and grammatically correct sentences, but yet they don't know from whence they came?
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#110Also, Apple: Chinese workers flee Covid lockdown at iPhone factory https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-63447755 . Elsewhere in India, Apple is up its game. India's Tata to add Up to 45,000 woman workers at iPhone parts plant to deal with the shortage of parts created by zero lockdown policy https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-11-01/india-s-t... . More and more stuff is moving to other parts of Asia. So…
> Lockdown may be a temporary solution. The long-term solution is to maintain better hygiene (masks, washing hands) and get the vaccine without turning into political drama all over Twitter. Outside of China, how many countries continued a lockdown solution after vaccines became widely available (in that country)? Some countries at least pursued split lockdowns where vaccinated people were completely free.
Which was controversial in my country from the onset, and which has recently become even more controversial when it was revealed that Pfizer didn't actually test for transmission prevention in their product.
Not trying to shoehorn this discussion into politics, but the movement pushing back against lockdowns and forced/semi-forced vaccination isn't composed entirely out of anti-vaxxers or conspiracy nuts.