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Shanghai Disney shuts: Visitors unable to leave without negative Covid test

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covid zero is getting more and more like economy zero.

Those running China know this, so why is it continuing

This I don't get and open to someone explaining it. There was a market rumour yesterday that committee was established to remove this rule ...markets jumped but that rumour was squashed by their government. Clearly it's causing pain and what happens with the next pandemic. Do the know something we don't?

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Also, Apple: Chinese workers flee Covid lockdown at iPhone factory https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-63447755 . Elsewhere in India, Apple is up its game. India's Tata to add Up to 45,000 woman workers at iPhone parts plant to deal with the shortage of parts created by zero lockdown policy https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-11-01/india-s-t... . More and more stuff is moving to other parts of Asia. So…

> washing hands I always thought the pandemic will make fist bumps or other forms of greetings “mainstream”. But everyone (I know) have reverted back to hand shakes. I guessing the same with Covid hygiene measures. > get the vaccine without turning into political drama all over Twitter. Like the majority of the people not taking the vaccine are on Twitter or do so because of social media drama.

I personally had hoped the pan demic would normalize the wearing of gloves when in public, to be taken off as needed to eat, etc.

But here we are.

[Edited to explicitly indicate that this was a satirical post]

Re: Shanghai Disney shuts: Visitors unable to leave without negative Covid test

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COVID has taught me a lot about the cultural differences between the west and China. A friend of mine worked in China for many years, but after several months of being locked in their apartment block and tested every 72 hours they chose to leave China. I honestly couldn't imagine people in the West putting up with that, however I'm yet to fully understand why Chinese people continue to suffer the rules without riot.

> A friend of mine worked in China for many years, but after several months of being locked in their apartment block and tested every 72 hours they chose to leave China.

Had a co-worker who also moved back to Singapore after spending many years living in Shanghai. They gave her 4 eggs and a bag of lettuce to last for 1 week, thankfully the apartment block she lived in had a person sneak in every few days with groceries for the building because the local authories didn't care. Being woken up at 5am daily for mandatory testing.

Re: Shanghai Disney shuts: Visitors unable to leave without negative Covid test

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What, like some kind of engineered biotech effect that will allow one nation to finally take over the world? It's a spooky enough scenario to be sexy to think about, but not even I'm tinfoil hat enough to think that's a practical move for us right now.

I was thinking more along the lines that it was found that the lab ferrets experienced slow but continuous neural degredation without an end in sight after infection. But you're right, it's not practical society-level to worry about.

Yeah. I was commenting in a thread a few hours ago trying to reason about alcohol's degrading effects on the brain. Also depression and morbid obesity.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33424857

Worry probably causes neural degradation too.

I'm still gonna drink alcohol and I'm still going to end up catching some diseases. I'll probably still eat some burgers, too. I'd like to not be a total wreck for doing any of these sorts of things too much.

I've heard ferrets smell kinda bad, but I'd probably still want to pet a brain damaged one.

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COVID has taught me a lot about the cultural differences between the west and China. A friend of mine worked in China for many years, but after several months of being locked in their apartment block and tested every 72 hours they chose to leave China. I honestly couldn't imagine people in the West putting up with that, however I'm yet to fully understand why Chinese people continue to suffer the rules without riot.

Americans riot because their protected right to riot is so inculcated in them since birth that they do not really even think that it's a matter of perspective.

There's a difference between protesting and rioting tho.

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Also, Apple: Chinese workers flee Covid lockdown at iPhone factory https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-63447755 . Elsewhere in India, Apple is up its game. India's Tata to add Up to 45,000 woman workers at iPhone parts plant to deal with the shortage of parts created by zero lockdown policy https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-11-01/india-s-t... . More and more stuff is moving to other parts of Asia. So…

> Lockdown may be a temporary solution. The long-term solution is to maintain better hygiene (masks, washing hands) and get the vaccine without turning into political drama all over Twitter.

Outside of China, how many countries continued a lockdown solution after vaccines became widely available (in that country)? Some countries at least pursued split lockdowns where vaccinated people were completely free.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

China's vaccine doesn't work. That's why they continue to lockdown. It's really not more complicated than that.

Why are you responding to me with this?

You invented some weird strawman about how great China is and that's why they need to lockdown (1.2 Billion people or something). I'm pointing out that the reason they're locking down is because their science sucks and as a result the vaccine doesn't work, so Covid is still a thing there when it isn't in the West because we have working vaccines and also a lot of people with natural immunity.

Re: Shanghai Disney shuts: Visitors unable to leave without negative Covid test

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> washing hands I always thought the pandemic will make fist bumps or other forms of greetings “mainstream”. But everyone (I know) have reverted back to hand shakes. I guessing the same with Covid hygiene measures. > get the vaccine without turning into political drama all over Twitter. Like the majority of the people not taking the vaccine are on Twitter or do so because of social media drama.

I personally had hoped the pan demic would normalize the wearing of gloves when in public, to be taken off as needed to eat, etc. But here we are. [Edited to explicitly indicate that this was a satirical post]

Some people here in HN said that the pandemic would normalise using masks - the way things are now every time I see someone wearing a mask I can’t help but think that they are ill and infectious; it’s very very rare.

So glad that we are back to the way it was.

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