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Nascar driver stuns to qualify for championship with GameCube move

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Re: Nascar driver stuns to qualify for championship with GameCube move

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I get that he’s not going to slide off the track, but I don’t understand how he wouldn’t be slowed by the friction of the side of his car against the wall, though

nitro_force - friction_force > max_force_before_you_slip_on_that_turn

I bet he was close to passing out on that turn, much like a fighter jet pilot can experience when they pull too many g's in a turn.

Re: Nascar driver stuns to qualify for championship with GameCube move

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I don’t think it’s the social expectations that are at play here. Instead, it’s that without video game football, the odds of a player ever being in this situation are minuscule — so minuscule that we’re currently commenting on an article written about one time that it happened twelve years ago — and so the correct strategy won’t be something that pops into your head when sprinting for the end zone. But if you play h…

> But if you play hundreds to thousands of iterated games of video game football where you control the ball on every play, you’re bound to run into the scenario and be detached enough to know what to do. Back in the day, the AI for opponents was often fairly stupid. Rather than spreading out intelligently to prevent an opponent from reaching the goal line, they would just sprint towards your current location at all t…

> in American football, failing to take the ball past a "first down" marker in five downs results in a turnover

Thanks for clarifying.

Re: Nascar driver stuns to qualify for championship with GameCube move

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post #99

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Okay but why didn’t anyone try this before? They just didn’t think of it? What made it a good idea this time but not any other time if it’s faster?

Its insanely dangerous. Really just neigh-criminally stupid. Any little lip in the siding on the wall could have caused him to flip or twirl about or get speared or launched his engine all over the place. The walls are designed to keep people safe, including the fans. They are fantastically well engineered and made. But, if he had caught the wall wrong and was catapulted into the stands, he may have killed a lot of p…

I think just this year the body design on the cars became strong enough to try this. He also risked a yellow flag being thrown which would have disqualified any passing afterward. But they weren't quick enough with that lol.

Re: Nascar driver stuns to qualify for championship with GameCube move

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Reminds me of another example of video-game inspired tactics: Just before he reached the end zone, with 17 seconds remaining, Stokley cut right at 90 degrees and ran across the field. Six seconds drained off the clock before, at last, he meandered across the goal line to score the winning touchdown. For certain football fans, the excitement of a last-minute comeback now commingled with the shock of the familiar: It's…

This is really interesting. The incentive to pull off this kind of move, running the clock down a bit, that was already present. But there's a certain social expectation that you won't game the rules so blatantly, so that's a disincentive. What the existence of video games does, is allow people to do things like this in an environment where social expectations and pressure don't really exist. It's like a psychologica…

I don't think its from video games, tbh, its just not a situation that comes up very often. Similar things happen IRL on rare occasions and doing weird things to game the rules are common when they do.

For example, if its 4th down and you are leading by more than 2 points with very little time left on the clock, what do you do? One option is to punt and have the punter run out of the back of his own endzone. It gives the opponent 2 points, but is a very safe play.

I've also seen teams run a punt play, but the offensive linemen intentionally commit holding to maximize the amount of time that the punter (or qb) holds onto the ball in the backfield while the clock runs. The clock doesn't stop until the ball hits the ground if a qb throws, so a high long pass just out of bounds can burn a few seconds too.

Hmm, lets see... also letting an opponent score a TD happens somewhat regularly. And often the player will slide instead of scoring. Video game players do that, but the idea didn't start there.

Re: Nascar driver stuns to qualify for championship with GameCube move

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That is pretty crazy. I can't imagine he kept his wheel alignment which would have been impactful if he had to keep racing, but it's impressive the suspension arms survived that. Maybe the new gen cage contacts before the wheels and they took most of the force?

I wonder if they modified the car for this at all? I've gotta imagine that he at least discussed the possibility of doing this with his crew before he went and did it.

He did discuss it with his crew with five laps to go, so it wasn't spur of the moment but pretty close.

Re: Nascar driver stuns to qualify for championship with GameCube move

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I think they should design the walls to make this easier and folks should put wheels on the side. Let’s go crazy, that was awesome.

If everyone has side wheel, it would get boring fast. The one that can hug the wall first win.

It'll be too hard on the driver's brains as well

Re: Nascar driver stuns to qualify for championship with GameCube move

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post #26

That's cute, but I suspect that kind of boldly foolish move would not be the kind of thing a team would appreciate, since it implies they can never count on what their driver will do. It was basically a Happy Gilmore hockey golf swing (which outperforms a regular golf swing when it works, but unfortunately is enough less reliable that it's not worth doing).

Sounds like the can count on their driver to understand a bit a damage to their car is well worth the championship points and press that comes from such a bold move.

I imagine the car body will be retired to the NASCAR museum after this.

Re: Nascar driver stuns to qualify for championship with GameCube move

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> But if you play hundreds to thousands of iterated games of video game football where you control the ball on every play, you’re bound to run into the scenario and be detached enough to know what to do. Back in the day, the AI for opponents was often fairly stupid. Rather than spreading out intelligently to prevent an opponent from reaching the goal line, they would just sprint towards your current location at all t…

The team gets only four downs, not five, to pass the first down line and reset it.

Picket fencing!

Re: Nascar driver stuns to qualify for championship with GameCube move

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Motorsports are drifting towards inevitable real-life F-Zero and Wipeout style electric hovercar racing. Don’t fight the future.

What I wouldn't give to see a Redline-style race in real life

I'm not sure what you mean by that. Do you mean super un safe cross country races? Its called rallying.

Do you mean impractically long drag races where lol turns out I wasn't flooring it and now I'm really flooring it? That aspect of redline doesn't make any sense.

Or maybe just the competitors build their own cars and anything goes? I could get behind that. Racing seemed more pure back when it was dudes who built their own cars in their own garage.

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