Funny enough I feel like only older “less realistic” driving games would let this be an advantage, Forza for instance realllly slows you down from the friction of hugging a wall
A realistic game would model the aero advantages from hugging the wall.
Nascar driver stuns to qualify for championship with GameCube move
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Re: Nascar driver stuns to qualify for championship with GameCube move
#262This is one of those events that I'm of several minds about: 1) This is what keeps people outside the scene interested and taking note - NASCAR absolutely should publicize and play up this moment, it brings a lot of folks to the sport. It was incredibly awesome. 2) A lot of times something like this is how you form some new regulations - it's truly one of those "You know, this was excellent but we can't do it again"…
It's definitely being played up so I think they did something right. My friends (who aren't Nascar fans) sent it to me, it was all over Twitter and Facebook, and now here in the #1 spot on the site I least expected it to show up.
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#263Earlier quoted context omitted.
Motorsports are different than other sports because the drivers' lives are under very real risk. A lot of the regulation is to keep the drivers alive. It comes at the expense of excitement but we would all agree it's necessary.
So the next step is to remove the drivers and have a more exciting race. I feel like there's a missing league of F1 autonomous driving cars.
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I think this is true of all games, where you don't specifically seek out other players choosing to be purposefully weaker. The transition from elementary school sports to middle school sports is pretty jarring. By the time you get to high school they've started weeding out anyone who enjoys the game versus dominating other people in preparation for college and the few who become pros. Video games just make this obvio…
Yep, 'speed runs' are all about optimizing whatever you can optimize and are mostly single-player. The only real distinction between single-player games and multiplayer games in this manor is that in single-player games players can choose the 'category' they are currently playing, whereas in multiplayer it is chosen for them. This let's them pick the categories with environments that are most fun optimized which is w…
> The only real distinction between single-player games and multiplayer games in this manor is that in single-player games players can choose the 'category' they are currently playing, whereas in multiplayer it is chosen for them.
Yes. That's the distinction that matters.
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Yes, and if you are an actual motorsport fan creating a 'mario kart boost' mode makes your sport look dumb. At least the way F1 does KERS is more controlled and logical (maximum amount of charge = maximum amount of additional horsepower you can deploy per lap)
Motorsports are drifting towards inevitable real-life F-Zero and Wipeout style electric hovercar racing. Don’t fight the future.
Re: Nascar driver stuns to qualify for championship with GameCube move
#266This is one of those events that I'm of several minds about: 1) This is what keeps people outside the scene interested and taking note - NASCAR absolutely should publicize and play up this moment, it brings a lot of folks to the sport. It was incredibly awesome. 2) A lot of times something like this is how you form some new regulations - it's truly one of those "You know, this was excellent but we can't do it again"…
I don't watch Nascar, but as from comments from other places, there is nothing new with it. It has been known and attempted by others now and then [1]. It is a high risk high reward move and this time it turned out good.
If it wasn't regulated so far, I don't think it will be.
[1] e.g. from just a year ago: https://racingnews.co/2021/09/06/kyle-larson-attempts-nascar...
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My favourite of these is probably Graeme Obree[1] who managed to get not one, but two very different bike positions banned in the ’90s after setting the hour record using one of them and winning the world championship using the other. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graeme_Obree
A bit like Michael Guerra? I haven't checked, but if his trick didn't get banned... https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3Iz7ZMALaCY
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> Of all the forms of immortality, my favorite is participating in a competition in such a brilliant, incorrect way that a rule is permanently added just for you. That's precisely why car races are boring these days. Everything is forbidden and over-regulated so there's no space for innovation anymore. Look at F1 and its bloat of regulations.
But in F1 it's exciting because you never know what rules they are gonna enforce this time and for whom. /s Edit: on a more serious note: The regulations are so tight to keep it exciting. Frustratingly, if the regulations are more open, one of the better funded teams will just run away with the best car. That already happened in some seasons, but would be even worse without tight regulations.
Give us back mass dampers, active suspension, flexi-wings, dual-axis steering, and similar things. None of these are driver aids, and they aren't inherently unsafe (flexi wings might be more fragile). They were banned because it would be too expensive for everyone to have to develop it.
But the cost cap solves the problem of 'too expensive for everyone to develop it'. Everyone gets the same choice, and if a properly tuned mass-damper takes 30 million to get right, and 10 million to sort-of-work. Then people get to pick where the best cost-benefit trade-off lies.
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> went full send with the wall How did the term "full send" come about? Why is everyone saying it these days?
I thought it's a skateboard thing, but apparently its roots can be traced back to rock climbing: https://www.dictionary.com/e/slang/send-it/
But skateboarders do sometimes say "full commit" or something like that.
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When I was in high school a local science museum had an annual paper airplane contest. One of the events was duration of flight. The launch platform was a second-story landing. One year I won with a simple piece of paper the size of a dollar bill that was bent into a S-shape profile so that it would twirl as it fell. It turns out this is actually a legitimate way to produce lift, and actual human-carrying aircraft ha…
This is sort of similar to helicopter autorotation, isn't it?
However, there is a sort of rotation about a horizontal axis in an ordinary wing because a wing produces vortices, and this is a necessary part of the process of producing lift [1]. In heavy aircraft these vortices can be surprisingly powerful and long-lasting, to the point where they can cause smaller aircraft to lose control and even crash if they get caught in one [2].
That first reference has an excellent description of what was going on in my design [3].
[1] https://www.av8n.com/how/htm/airfoils.html#sec-circulation-v...