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Re: Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

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Post by fomine3 » Mon, Oct 31, 2022, 1:08 AM UTC

williamcotton wrote: post #293

jimmyswimmy wrote: post #288

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It's not. But at the margin it is. If you already have a touch screen display then adding a button costs next to nothing on a per car basis. And there are a ton of solenoids in cars so they can probably reuse one and save the cost of the manual latch. Not to mention the Apple-esque design ideals that eradicated headphone jacks. You now have a cleaner looking passenger side of the dashboard. None for me, thanks.

Auto-manufacturers are still buying manual latch mechanisms in bulk as well for their non-luxury cars. A demand for Apple-esque design seems more plausible!

Or say, most manufacturer want to be like Tesla

Re: Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

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Post by fomine3 » Mon, Oct 31, 2022, 1:21 AM UTC

jaclaz wrote: post #285

izacus wrote: post #176

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Except that you can't "not buy" a vehicle you need for transport just because the manufacturers decided to remove the latch from the glove compartment. Your logic only works in healthy markets like TVs where you could buy _EQUIVALENT_ device without the curvature or 3D. Meanwhile with cars this isn't true - the touchscreen crap trend is being implemented across the market (since its cheaper) and many people can't fre…

>Your logic only works in healthy markets like TVs where you could buy _EQUIVALENT_ device without the curvature or 3D. Excuse me, but the TV is not at all "a healthy market", in a healthy market you would have choices for non-smart TV sets or - even more simply - decently priced simple monitors.

Yeah, this is better example than curved/3D. Curved TVs are minority and 3D is completely harmless (that's why they can add it for cheap even though very few contents). Smart TV is the default and isn't harmless.

Re: Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

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Post by quickthrower2 » Mon, Oct 31, 2022, 2:47 AM UTC

scrollaway wrote: post #232

quickthrower2 wrote: post #136

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This sort of thing will keep me burning fossil fuels and using older model cars.

This sort of thing is why I'll never buy a car in the first place. It's cheaper and doesn't burn fossil fuels. Heck, "not buying a car" is one of those very few decisions I took when I was young which resulted in me not being in debt for the rest of my life.

Don't buy a car, buy real estate somewhere you don't need one is properly good advice!

Re: Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

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Post by m463 » Mon, Oct 31, 2022, 5:59 AM UTC

SQueeeeeL wrote: post #270

rco8786 wrote: post #212

I continue to be genuinely shocked that we don't treat touch screens in cars the same way we do as phones in cars (that is to say, it is literally illegal to use them while the vehicle is moving in most places because the distraction is such a danger). Moving away from tactile in-car controls has to be among the more boneheaded things we've allowed that industry to do.

It's a cost cutting move. One touch screen is cheaper than 30 individual buttons, and ultimately many people have died because of it. But I'm sure GM would never do anything sketchy or illegal to lower cost or increase revenue

Older tesla model s:

- can't flash the headlights at oncoming cars.

- can't let the passenger in without touching the touchscreen several times (lock door handle, unlock door handle, THEN door presents itself on unlock)

- can't turn on the defrost/defog without using the touchscreen (and that requires attention to locate the control). The new UI that just came out puts these on submenus.

The new model S with the square steering wheel is even more of a dumpster fire. no stalks. Turn signals are buttons on the steering wheel. wipers too. and additional things like PRND on the touchscreen / center console.

Re: Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

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Post by Tagbert » Mon, Oct 31, 2022, 6:05 AM UTC

I don’t mind touch screen in cars for things that are not critical during driving. Things that you need during driving should be physical controls.

For things like glove box latches and door latches, just simple mechanicals please.

Re: Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

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Post by m463 » Mon, Oct 31, 2022, 6:18 AM UTC

prepend wrote: post #335

steelframe wrote: post #307

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> When starting the car, it loses the connection, and sometimes can't reestablish it. We are long past the point as an industry when we should have collectively declared Bluetooth a failed experiment.

I use Bluetooth every time with my car and I never have a connection problem. I use an old iPhone and my car is 5 years old. It may be an issue with GP’s car rather than the protocol itself. Turning your car off and on for Bluetooth sounds particularly stupid. I can unpair and pair my car without restarting it.

I don't know, but I'll bet there's a lot of iphone-specific workarounds compiled into the car's code.

Re: Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

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Post by m463 » Mon, Oct 31, 2022, 6:20 AM UTC

kibwen wrote: post #242

pacificmint wrote: post #219

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Time to put a safety glovebox crowbar in your center console.

No good, the button to open the center console is located on a touchscreen inside the glovebox.

Hey no problem, I drive with the touchscreen anyway.

Re: Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

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Post by m463 » Mon, Oct 31, 2022, 6:21 AM UTC

BizarreByte wrote: post #8

I don't want touch screens in cars period and I can't stand this trend of using them. I'm finally starting to understand the feelings my grandfather had for anything thing he considered superfluous or inconvenient in a car.

The problem is that the car engineers consider individual controls superfluous.

Re: Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

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Post by m463 » Mon, Oct 31, 2022, 6:27 AM UTC

macintux wrote: post #2

Someone in the comments pointed out that not only is this terrible, you can only open the glove box while stationary. I thought GM had jumped the shark when they started leaving the reverse lights on when you park, just to make sure people or cars nearby don’t know whether it’s safe to pass you in the parking lot. This is a whole new level of stupidity.

I disliked tesla's automatic brake lights, but this seems next-level ridiculous.

(telsa's brake lights are triggered based on deceleration so they constantly flicker when you're just using regen a bit)

Re: Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

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Post by m463 » Mon, Oct 31, 2022, 6:31 AM UTC

redox99 wrote: post #157

gorgoiler wrote: post #127

Well how are you going to make Passenger Storage+ a $2.99 monthly subscription if the latch isn’t software controlled? Is a robolatch cheaper, compared to a manual latch? Is there a cost saving for the manufacturer?

The thought of the glovebox becoming a DLC like the BMW heated seats is hilarious.

It's more storage slots, just like every game ever.

And with every oil change at the dealer, you unlock a cupholder. Get an extended warranty and unlock 2 driver and 2 passenger cupholders.