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Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

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Re: Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

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Post by ah27182 »

oktwtf wrote: post #64
sand500 wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mazda disables touch for Android auto and carplay and I think that's awesome. The wheel is much better to use.

This was the first thing I disable when I got my 2016 Mazda 3. SSH'd into the infotainment and locked the GPS position. Now the car thinks I'm always parked, even when rolling. I also reduced the warning/notice on boot to about 500ms. Considering this, I don't think I've ever even had to touch the screen since; the wheel is just so nice. The volume knob down in that cluster is also very ergonomic.

I dont get locking the GPS. Was is to your car from keep beeping if your seatbelt was unbuckled?

Re: Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

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Post by b112 »

defrost wrote: post #7
spike021 wrote: post #3

I read on another forum that there isn't even a manual release somewhere. I understand for security it's nice not to but maybe hide one _somewhere_ so at least you have some backup option in an emergency?

That'd be nice .. or just bypass the entire added layer of relay controls and go back to a manual latch. The article scenarios raise some of the real life issues: * What if your battery dies, and you have your small emergency charger in the glovebox? * What if you’re waiting in a turned-off car while your friend or parent or lover pops inside the liquor store, and you need to get, say, your hyper-important pills out…

I gave my mom, something close to this:

https://www.amazon.ca/Luxtude-Pack-Car-Safety-Hammer/dp/B087...

There is no way a 90lb, octataraien, is going to rip a seatbelt loose if stuck, or smash her car window by hand, if the power is out, or if underwater.

Yes she can reach the glovebox and get this tool, but not if the thing won't open!

Re: Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

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Post by joecool1029 »

pintxo wrote: post #106
para_parolu wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It may sound strange but UX is main reason why I drive mazda. I have no other requirements (besides basic safety).

Driver UX was the reason of my initial focus on BMW over other makers.

You say this but their drivers still can't figure out how to operate turn signals.

Re: Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

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Post by b112 »

spike021 wrote: post #125
bombcar wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Find out how to shift your car into neutral with a dead battery. For many cars, it involves popping off the cover around the shifter and holding two tabs out of the way - here's an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEui4r1AKhg Also works if you don't have the key, which can be useful.

I just drive a manual. Makes it easy to get into neutral.

Sadly, this will vanish with almost all EVs.

I love manual transmissions, but I will have to give this up soon. Likely so will you, sadly.

Re: Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

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Post by eurasiantiger »

jsemrau wrote: post #129
BizarreByte wrote: post #8

I don't want touch screens in cars period and I can't stand this trend of using them. I'm finally starting to understand the feelings my grandfather had for anything thing he considered superfluous or inconvenient in a car.

The round knob to increase / decrease sound volume is simply the best UX in the car. Why do I have to navigate to a submenu to push a button repeatedly to change the volume. The less I look at the road the higher the risk of an accident.

The whisker controls are even better. No need to take hands off the wheel.

Re: Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

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Post by quickthrower2 »

devoutsalsa wrote: post #112
MrFoof wrote: post #89

GM also has electronic primary door release mechanisms in their vehicles. So if the car has no power, you can’t open the doors from inside. Granted, because of regulatory requirements there is STILL A MANUAL RELEASE… on the floor, near the chassis sill (and might be driver-seat only). So you save money going to electronic releases, but still have to put a manual one in anyways. The glovebox is merely annoying (though…

if you're doors won't open when the power goes out, that is just frikkin' stupid.

This sort of thing will keep me burning fossil fuels and using older model cars.

Re: Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

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Post by b112 »

pkulak wrote: post #61
throwaway892238 wrote: post #57

Can we make the steering wheel a touch screen too? Like a digital wheel you turn with your finger to steer the car. Wouldn't that be just super duper? Couldn't possibly go wrong.

Except that I open my glove box twice a year and turn the wheel slightly more often than that.

This makes an interesting point.

The less used something is, the more apparent it must be how to use it.

If something is used once a year, most users won't know what myriad of menus to follow. Some won't even know it is a menu option, and may hunt all over the car for a hidden release.

Re: Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

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Post by 9935c101ab17a66 »

BizarreByte wrote: post #8

I don't want touch screens in cars period and I can't stand this trend of using them. I'm finally starting to understand the feelings my grandfather had for anything thing he considered superfluous or inconvenient in a car.

It’s interesting to consider that your grandfather was probably wrong about somethings being superfluous. Im not saying that as a criticism — but there are probably necessities of modern cars you and I find magnificent and essential (whether we our conscious of them or not) that your grandfather disdained.

Don’t get me wrong, touchscreen gloveboxes are stupid as hell, but as I get older and things change, i find myself wondering if I’m being discerning or closed-minded.

Re: Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

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Post by quickthrower2 »

gorgoiler wrote: post #127

Well how are you going to make Passenger Storage+ a $2.99 monthly subscription if the latch isn’t software controlled? Is a robolatch cheaper, compared to a manual latch? Is there a cost saving for the manufacturer?

That 2.99 adds $360 to the companies market cap for each subscription!

Re: Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

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Post by b112 »

adrianN wrote: post #48
brandonp0 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right, but the average thief is probably not that familiar with a Tesla, and even if they are, these guys move very quickly. Their goal is to get in and get out and move to the next car. They're not going to sit there with an angle grinder unless they somehow know you have something good in there.

I bet it takes mere seconds to angle grind your way into a glovebox. Thick hardened steel bike locks resist angle grinders for less than a minute. Thieves also talk to each other and spread techniques.

I bet it takes mere seconds to angle grind your way into a glovebox

I bet I can rip it open in a second. The box itself is all plastic, not steel. A good yank and it will deform.

I can rip the whole console/dash plastic off if I want. It's just plastic tabs holding it in.

The lock only prevents sneaky access.

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