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Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

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Re: Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

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Remember curved TVs? Remember 3D for TVs? That was essentially technology bullet-point features, but since they flopped hard you can no longer buy curved TVs or 3D TVs. Turns out if people really don't want shit, it disappears again, no matter how hard various corporations push the shit.

Curiously, I can still buy a TV that puts ads in its UI. Nobody wanted that…

I’m sure there’s a car company that plans to use Touchscreen as advertising space. Maybe it’s recommendations on your map, or a small banner ad.

A great opportunity to serve Ads to a captive audience

Re: Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

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I don't want touch screens in cars period and I can't stand this trend of using them. I'm finally starting to understand the feelings my grandfather had for anything thing he considered superfluous or inconvenient in a car.

> I don't want touch screens in cars period

While I agree things like volume, glovebox release, and other standard functions should stay far away from a touchscreen, I do like that touchscreens have enabled highly customizable options/settings that would be a bit tougher to achieve without a touchscreen.

Or at the very least a digital screen with manual navigation buttons, but in this case, a touchscreen is a bit more convenient (and you usually have to have the car parked to change settings, anyway).

Re: Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

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I dont get locking the GPS. Was is to your car from keep beeping if your seatbelt was unbuckled?

Some cars like My ex-wife's lexus wont let you access the navigation system unless the vehicle is stopped. This is VERY VERY stupid and TBH dangerous. Should se find herself lost on the highway she would need to leave the highway or stop on the side of the road to access the navigation system?? If you attempt to access the nav system while the vehicle is not stopped it simply displays some sort of "vehicle is in moti…

Is the system still disabled if someone is present in the front passenger seat (modern vehicles have sensors for this)? Oftentimes the passenger acts as the navigator and it wouldn't make sense for them to be locked out of the system.

Re: Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

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Remember curved TVs? Remember 3D for TVs? That was essentially technology bullet-point features, but since they flopped hard you can no longer buy curved TVs or 3D TVs. Turns out if people really don't want shit, it disappears again, no matter how hard various corporations push the shit.

Except that you can't "not buy" a vehicle you need for transport just because the manufacturers decided to remove the latch from the glove compartment. Your logic only works in healthy markets like TVs where you could buy _EQUIVALENT_ device without the curvature or 3D. Meanwhile with cars this isn't true - the touchscreen crap trend is being implemented across the market (since its cheaper) and many people can't fre…

>Your logic only works in healthy markets like TVs where you could buy _EQUIVALENT_ device without the curvature or 3D.

Excuse me, but the TV is not at all "a healthy market", in a healthy market you would have choices for non-smart TV sets or - even more simply - decently priced simple monitors.

Re: Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

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if you're doors won't open when the power goes out, that is just frikkin' stupid.

This sort of thing will keep me burning fossil fuels and using older model cars.

My wife (I don't drive myself) has a VW eUp. Fully electric, no touch screen, manual doorlocks. It's not very big, though.

Re: Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

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Some cars like My ex-wife's lexus wont let you access the navigation system unless the vehicle is stopped. This is VERY VERY stupid and TBH dangerous. Should se find herself lost on the highway she would need to leave the highway or stop on the side of the road to access the navigation system?? If you attempt to access the nav system while the vehicle is not stopped it simply displays some sort of "vehicle is in moti…

Is the system still disabled if someone is present in the front passenger seat (modern vehicles have sensors for this)? Oftentimes the passenger acts as the navigator and it wouldn't make sense for them to be locked out of the system.

Yes, it has been a while since i've been in her car.. i think you actually need to put it in park to "unlock" it, not just be stopped.

This is why I said the system is very stupid.. one would think that a passenger can access the navigation system given they are not driving.

The lesson I took away from this is: Never buy a car with a built-in GPS system.

Android auto/carplay are a much better - They are not likely to hold your car "ransom" for map updates or such, and don't have stupid rules like must be in park.

Re: Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

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It's a cost cutting move. One touch screen is cheaper than 30 individual buttons, and ultimately many people have died because of it. But I'm sure GM would never do anything sketchy or illegal to lower cost or increase revenue

How is a manual glovebox latch more expensive than an electronic latch? I think there must be consumer demand for this feature. Oh how luxurious it must feel to never have to use a manual latch unlike the unwashed…

It's not. But at the margin it is. If you already have a touch screen display then adding a button costs next to nothing on a per car basis.

And there are a ton of solenoids in cars so they can probably reuse one and save the cost of the manual latch.

Not to mention the Apple-esque design ideals that eradicated headphone jacks. You now have a cleaner looking passenger side of the dashboard.

None for me, thanks.

Re: Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

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People raise their blood pressure for nothing. You could have both a touch screen glove box release and a discreet manual release for emergencies. It’s just for aesthetics.

> It’s just for aesthetics What about form follows function?

> What about form follows function?

Often designers privilege form over function.

Examples: lots of silly architecture, and the fact that my kitchen countertops are tiled.

Re: Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

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Don't blame GM for something Tesla popularized...

That's incredibly naive. It sounds like you're saying it's okay to do stupid stuff as long as someone popular does it first.

Isn't this how most of the 'civilized' world operates?
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