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Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

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Re: Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

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I don't want touch screens in cars period and I can't stand this trend of using them. I'm finally starting to understand the feelings my grandfather had for anything thing he considered superfluous or inconvenient in a car.

> 'I'm finally starting to understand the feelings my grandfather had for anything thing he considered superfluous or inconvenient in a car.' I drive a 12 year old Focus that has just about the right amount of modern functions - such as aircon, bluetooth connection and rear parking sensors. I guess the problem with cars nowadays is that there isn't much to differentiate between them so all these added features have b…

I feel similarly about my 2019 GTI. The fundamentals are available without the touch screen, but you still have CarPlay. The later model GTIs went fully touch screen and capacitive touch buttons everywhere, including the steering wheel. Disappointing.

Re: Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

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GM also has electronic primary door release mechanisms in their vehicles. So if the car has no power, you can’t open the doors from inside. Granted, because of regulatory requirements there is STILL A MANUAL RELEASE… on the floor, near the chassis sill (and might be driver-seat only). So you save money going to electronic releases, but still have to put a manual one in anyways. The glovebox is merely annoying (though…

How does electronic release save money (or when is the breakeven), considering the engineering of the electronic / sw system and the new emergency release system vs adapting the usual manual system to a new car model?

Electronic locks create future revenue opportunities! Maybe the next auto industry innovation will be subscription doors. "Upgrade your vehicle from 3 doors to 4, just $19.99/month!"

Re: Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Current regulations weren't written when this was feasible. Regulators are always playing catch-up game.

Sounds risky by manufacturers to be caught out by this

They probably already have lobbyists at the ready should these concerns appear as a blip on some political agenda. :(

Re: Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

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Someone in the comments pointed out that not only is this terrible, you can only open the glove box while stationary. I thought GM had jumped the shark when they started leaving the reverse lights on when you park, just to make sure people or cars nearby don’t know whether it’s safe to pass you in the parking lot. This is a whole new level of stupidity.

I hate the reverse light thing so hard. If I see a GM with reverse lights on I completely ignore it and never stop. Thanks GM for ruining something nice.

Re: Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a car with a touchscreen all in one for audio and such. I have to use bluetooth to connect my phone, rather than being able to just use USB. When starting the car, it loses the connection, and sometimes can't reestablish it. And like 1/10 times it asks me to stop the car to be able to pair it again. Especially annoying if it happens when I want to use GPS through my phone. (My record was having to stop -> star…

> When starting the car, it loses the connection, and sometimes can't reestablish it. We are long past the point as an industry when we should have collectively declared Bluetooth a failed experiment.

This old thing. Bluetooth is a technology that works fine for me and millions of others every single day. That is not to say it always works flawlessly. Seemingly every time I am forced to use Windows or Teams, it doesn't work. And if I had a car like the parent where it was my only option, I would also be annoyed.

But let's say I agreed with you, so us and what industry would declare it failed? Some Bluetooth consortium, i.e. the same people who make 99% of these devices with likely unbelievably buggy implementations hacked together in the minimum of time? Society at large? Consumers? Some union of software engineers?

I am very sympathetic to people's lives been made more annoying by technology that doesn't work, just as I am to people's lives being made worse by technology that does work. Unfortunately, I don't have a solution, either.

(Maybe right-to-repair could be a starting point for open-source efforts to change products where incentives don't align. Doesn't help much with firmware though.)

Re: Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

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I understand that this is a rant about a niche feature but you know what we really should stop doing right now? We should stop producing giant piles of metal with four weels weighting more than 2 or 3 tons. No matter what stupid options they have, SUVs and big cars and trucks are a total nonsense. Sadly they are slowly becoming the norm. We should keep our vehicles under a ton so that we stop wasting so much of our p…

Cool, we must have TARDIS's now or personal levitation & force field belts or something to replace the functionality. Been waiting for that.

Re: Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

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Reminds me of an aggravating feature (or really lack thereof) in my new Prius. It has wireless charging, but requires a cable connection for CarPlay. I hope I never meet a Toyota engineer in person, because it would be hard not to do something criminal to them.

You’re mad that Toyota didn’t include an extra WiFi radio in your car, so that you can be more conveniently distracted by text messages and speed trap warnings, in the same thread where everyone else thinks that electric starters ruined cars forever?

Carplay lets me use the car to control audio with the car controls instead of the phone. That’s a big non-distractor. Your comment tells me that you have never actually used CarPlay (and perhaps that Android Auto is not so good—I wouldn’t know, I always assumed it was roughly equivalent to CarPlay in features and functionality). My phone doesn’t notify me about text messages when I’m driving and with the Prius, if I want navigation, CarPlay is the thing. Having the nav on the big display instead of the little display (which would be well out of the normal peripheral line of sight if it’s sitting on the wireless charger) is again an improvement in safety.
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