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Nobody wants touch-screen glove box latches

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Post by qull »

neilv wrote: post #72

I'm not looking forward to buying another car, since I've been hearing of a lot of criminally negligent human factors engineering for at least a decade, combined with increasingly invasive spying on people in their own cars. Is there any decent automotive company remaining?

Mazdas higher end cars are pretty nice. And like anothother commenter mentioned about subaru, they are a smaller company who still makes most of their cars domestically (japan) and seems to care about quality. I will warn their pait always seems a bit thin, so get a clear cover if you do a lot of highway or dirt roads. They still use buttons for nearly everything even when they have screens.

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Post by veidr »

rideontime wrote: post #262
narcraft wrote: post #256

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People keep safety vests in their cars?

Yes.

I'm American, so — you know. It does make logical sense to do so, but I've never known anybody who keeps a safety vest in their vehicle. Is this something like the metric system?

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Post by kayodelycaon »

narcraft wrote: post #256
janosdebugs wrote: post #230

This is going to cost lives. Most people I know have their safety vests in the glovebox. Imagine if your car breaks down and you can't get the darn thing open/on the side of a highway?

People keep safety vests in their cars?

I do.

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Post by kayodelycaon »

pkulak wrote: post #66
dhosek wrote: post #13

Reminds me of an aggravating feature (or really lack thereof) in my new Prius. It has wireless charging, but requires a cable connection for CarPlay. I hope I never meet a Toyota engineer in person, because it would be hard not to do something criminal to them.

You’re mad that Toyota didn’t include an extra WiFi radio in your car, so that you can be more conveniently distracted by text messages and speed trap warnings, in the same thread where everyone else thinks that electric starters ruined cars forever?

Most people mount their phones someplace in their line of sight. If anything, car play is less distracting than a phone.

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Post by Roark66 »

permo-w wrote: post #54

one tangentially related extremely irritating “feature” of Teslas is automatic updates, which not only disable the car while they’re going on, but often rearrange the UI so you have to figure out where the buttons are all over again. it’s a flat out disgrace. you get into your extremely expensive car, ready to go, but no the car isn’t available because some dev team somewhere a few thousand miles away decided to push…

Wow, that must be annoying. Imagine you're almost late to go somewhere, or you have an actual medical emergency and the car says nope, now I'm updating...

Seriously I would probably remove the antenna or the sim card for the car's data connection.

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Post by Terretta »

SQueeeeeL wrote: post #270
rco8786 wrote: post #212

I continue to be genuinely shocked that we don't treat touch screens in cars the same way we do as phones in cars (that is to say, it is literally illegal to use them while the vehicle is moving in most places because the distraction is such a danger). Moving away from tactile in-car controls has to be among the more boneheaded things we've allowed that industry to do.

It's a cost cutting move. One touch screen is cheaper than 30 individual buttons, and ultimately many people have died because of it. But I'm sure GM would never do anything sketchy or illegal to lower cost or increase revenue

The touch screen is one thing. To your point, arguably it's no incremental cost.

But I don't buy that electro-mechanical latches and actuators and wiring cost less than a dumb latch.

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Post by Akronymus »

rco8786 wrote: post #212

I continue to be genuinely shocked that we don't treat touch screens in cars the same way we do as phones in cars (that is to say, it is literally illegal to use them while the vehicle is moving in most places because the distraction is such a danger). Moving away from tactile in-car controls has to be among the more boneheaded things we've allowed that industry to do.

I have a car with a touchscreen all in one for audio and such.

I have to use bluetooth to connect my phone, rather than being able to just use USB. When starting the car, it loses the connection, and sometimes can't reestablish it. And like 1/10 times it asks me to stop the car to be able to pair it again.

Especially annoying if it happens when I want to use GPS through my phone.

(My record was having to stop -> start my car 3 times)

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Post by williamcotton »

SQueeeeeL wrote: post #270
rco8786 wrote: post #212

I continue to be genuinely shocked that we don't treat touch screens in cars the same way we do as phones in cars (that is to say, it is literally illegal to use them while the vehicle is moving in most places because the distraction is such a danger). Moving away from tactile in-car controls has to be among the more boneheaded things we've allowed that industry to do.

It's a cost cutting move. One touch screen is cheaper than 30 individual buttons, and ultimately many people have died because of it. But I'm sure GM would never do anything sketchy or illegal to lower cost or increase revenue

How is a manual glovebox latch more expensive than an electronic latch?

I think there must be consumer demand for this feature. Oh how luxurious it must feel to never have to use a manual latch unlike the unwashed…

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Post by Akronymus »

UweSchmidt wrote: post #223
jsemrau wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The round knob to increase / decrease sound volume is simply the best UX in the car. Why do I have to navigate to a submenu to push a button repeatedly to change the volume. The less I look at the road the higher the risk of an accident.

Worth noting that that round knob, where it exists, has lost a lot of functionality: 1. Setting volume to 0 will pause the recording, even though I sometimes want to silently forward through some unwanted parts (intros or ads in podcasts). 2. These knobs are also infinity knobs, I liked to have fixed start and end position with an indicator how loud it's going to be when I switch on. That last part has been taken ove…

And quite often the volume controls are linear, rather than exponential.

Because we hear logarythmic, it then makes the top half almost useless, while in the lower parts it's way too sensitive.

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