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Re: The Babylon Bee's Twitter account is no longer suspended

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Post by MichaelCollins »

bwbuhse wrote: post #220
illuminerdy wrote: post #206

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Lots of people are publicly mocked on Twitter everyday. What makes "trans" people so special?

I mean, if you purposefully misgender a cis person on Twitter, the same rule applies. Not sure what your issue is

Regardless of dictionary definitions, when judged by the tone and context of common use, "cis" is primarily a slur which is used to de-legitimize and insult the people it is directed at. Of the people who are ostensibly "cis", exceptionally few will choose to self-describe using that word. Kindly refrain from using it.

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Post by timeon »

monkmartinez wrote: post #168
Sohcahtoa82 wrote: post #116

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I guess it depends on which side you believe is more toxic. It's strange you would take the side that limiting bigotry, racism, homophobia, and transphobia is what creates toxicity.

Except both sides say the same things in different ways. The side that limits bigotry, racism, homophobia, and transphobia (as you say)... explicitly promotes bigotry against ideas they don't hold dear (alt-right, etc), racial prejudice, glorification of transgender and homosexual values. I don't care what you practice, just don't shove it in my face and tell me to love it.

There are no 2 sides. I'm not from US and do not follow US politics (in a way it is possible while browsing anglophone internet). But started using Twitter more after Trump was banned. Suddenly my feed was filled mostly with non-political stuff. I was not following anything political before but everyone had urge to comment on lies stated by president of the USA. The guy was just low quality shit-stirring. It was not bearable.

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Post by MichaelCollins »

hairofadog wrote: post #266
mikkergp wrote: post #258

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Trump is in a weird position though that he can't come back to Twitter without sabotaging any value or investment he put into Truth Social since just about the only value in Truth Social is that Trump is on it.

If he doesn't return to Twitter by the end of the year and simply leave everyone who invested in Truth Social holding the bag, I'll eat my hat.

I think it depends how much utility he sees in continuing his victim narrative.

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Post by rufus_foreman »

Comevius wrote: post #212
labrador wrote: post #65

Babylon Bee seems pretty harmless. I find right wing humor to be fairly low-IQ, but they should be able to joke about trans women without getting banned. I'm a recovering alcoholic and bipolar, so I have to put up with jokes about drunks and manic street preachers. Why should trans get a pass? Heck, I even tell jokes about drunks and manic street preachers myself.

A closest analogy would be the Babylon Bee making a joke about how you are not bipolar, it's all just in your head, or a satire about researchers trying to cure bipolar disorder instead of cancer, a real disease, and those would be fine, but then they would insist that it is true, your bipolar disorder is made up, and the CEO of Babylon Bee would go on Tucker Carlson's show and they would laugh about you being a whin…

>> the CEO of Babylon Bee would go on Tucker Carlson's show and they would laugh about you being a whiny, lazy leftist

Then the Babylon Bee would publish "After Dismissing Warnings From His Mother, Tucker Carlson's Face Is Now Stuck That Way", which is hilarious since I knew before clicking the link which face it would be.

They make fun of everybody.

-- https://babylonbee.com/news/after-dismissing-warnings-from-h...

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Post by Mezzie »

mikkergp wrote: post #258
PartiallyTyped wrote: post #251

You can expect the Donald to be unbanned. You can also expect twitter to become the same cesspool that truth social is.

Trump is in a weird position though that he can't come back to Twitter without sabotaging any value or investment he put into Truth Social since just about the only value in Truth Social is that Trump is on it.

I'm fascinated to see what the result will be. It's always interesting to watch public figures struggle between two different but almost equally important incentives.

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Post by Comevius »

incomingpain wrote: post #274
Ancapistani wrote: post #265

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> Right wing guy takes control of Twitter I'll bite. What makes Musk "right wing"? I get that he has some publicly stated positions that are counter to the prevailing positions of the Democratic Party, but I can't think of any that I would consider "right wing". In fact, I can't think of any that would have been out of place for a Democrat in the late 1990s or early 2000s.

>What makes Musk "right wing"? He has self-defined long ago as left-wing. Not surprising given he lived in california and started an electric car company. Though in many interviews he tried to assert his position is far less on the left-right spectrum. Which is really the global way it works, it only works this way in the usa. But he had a post recently. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1519735033950470144 You can…

Not everyone likes an egotistical demagogue, and he only came out as a right-winger as a distraction trying to dodge accountability.

The left haven't moved anywhere, the world did, and the right was left behind, only to reinvent themselves with xenophobic populism just in time to take advantage of the many challenges we are facing.

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Post by TexanFeller »

ThrowawayTestr wrote: post #263
bwbuhse wrote: post #220

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I mean, if you purposefully misgender a cis person on Twitter, the same rule applies. Not sure what your issue is

"Cis" people dont care about being misgendered.

Sure I’d hate it if you called me a TexanLady instead of a TexanFeller. But I will defend your right to call me names. Speech that offends someone doesn’t imply speech that shouldn’t be allowed.

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Post by JeremyNT »

mlindner wrote: post #86

Their account was never banned and could always be viewed. There's nothing in this post that indicates anything has changed. From last week: https://web.archive.org/web/20221019005155/https://twitter.c...

Thanks for this detail.

Even if something has changed and the title is correct, there's no source given for this assertion at the link provided. I'm flagging this submission since it doesn't contain any new information and it violates the HN guidelines wrt editorialized titles.

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Post by memish »

illuminerdy wrote: post #206
electrondood wrote: post #182

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Fully disagree. They publicly mocked a trans person, in clear violation of the TOS that all users agree to as a condition of use of the platform. They were then temporarily suspended, as clearly laid out in the TOS. Twitter says "Hey, if X, then Y." Babylon Bee says "Yeah, ok." Babylon Bee does X, and experiences Y. They are not victims, and there is no "violation of free speech" here.

Lots of people are publicly mocked on Twitter everyday. What makes "trans" people so special?

The difference is a highly engaged set of authoritarian activists who will assassinate your character and get you fired. Other groups don't have the equivalent of a Red Guard to enforce their ideology or religion.

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Post by rascul »

bakugo wrote: post #233
socialismisok wrote: post #143

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Citation needed. Can you find a tweet that says that, report it and tell if me it's found to have violated the rules? I see leftists in my communities getting banned all the time.

Here's a compilation from verified accounts only: https://i.imgur.com/nkN539Q.png Vast majority of these accounts were never banned and many of the tweets are still up today.

The text is so blurry that it's unreadable.

Edit: Although apparently someone else was able to. Maybe imgur is giving a different image to mobile? I tried with both Firefox and chrome on Android.

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