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Obama Announces $2B Fund for Startups

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Some clarity and contact with reality: "The bailout was a mess" The efforts of big gumment to get people who couldn't afford a house into one that blew a housing bubble that popped and created the worst financial and economic disaster since the Great Depression "was a mess". The 'bailout', that is, the TARP program was not "a mess" at all but a grand success: (1) TARP made money. All or nearly all the money has been…

I'm in full agreement about the media commonly distorting... everything in some way, but to say that we wouldn't be in Iraq or Afganistan if it weren't for them? I don't think it was Fox News who broke the story about 'Uranium shipments from Niger', it was the White House. Clearly the media had NO part in constructing CIA intelligence that led us to Iraq, they just repeated what we were told. Same thing with your Chi…

Iraq: The "tubes". They clearly were NOT for gas centrifuges to enrich uranium. The US Department of Energy knew this. But Secretary Rice kept saying that the tubes were evidence of efforts at uranium separation. In fact, as eventually did come out in the media, the tubes were to be bodies of crude rockets. Then W said "tubes" in his big speech. The media didn't clarify the situation and loudly call BS.

The uranium from Niger was maybe not real after all but even if real likely not very important: As I recall, that uranium chemical is a standard industrial item. E.g., one use of uranium is to color plastic lenses for cars or some such. Getting uranium is not so tough; enriching it enough for a bomb is. Running a uranium reactor is not so tough; getting the plutonium, 239 as I recall, and don't want 240 or some such, is tougher. Then to separate the plutonium, use just chemical means. Then to compress it enough to have a critical mass is tricky and likely needs some testing, and tests are now essentially impossible to hide.

The media should have helped make it clear that the evidence that Saddam was close to any very serious WMDs was very thin stuff.

W invaded Iraq on very thin stuff. The media should have made that fact very clear to the voters.

Okay, maybe we should have dumped Saddam. Maybe. I would have tried making him an offer he couldn't refuse, but maybe we're not supposed to do that. So, maybe we should have dumped him.

Getting to Baghdad took, what, 23 days? Then the big mistake started: Bremer decided to do 'nation building'. And his first step was to fire the Iraqi army -- dumb, dumb, dumb. Nearly every common thug criminal, gang leader, organized crime leader, terrorist leader, out of work soldier, Shiite leader, Sunni leader, Kurdish leader, Iranian politician, etc. saw how dumb it was and took advantage. Nearly the only one in Iraq who didn't 'get it' was Bremer.

Our media didn't keep us informed.

On China, it's simple: Our media didn't keep us informed. We still don't know the actual flows. First cut we need to know the flows.

Sometimes the media is silent; sometimes they pay attention to an important topic but make a mess, out of bias or just sloppy work; often they assume that the audience wouldn't want to know; usually it's just a lot cheaper to do sloppy reporting. Whatever, we're, net, getting the mushroom treatment from the media -- keep us in the dark and feed us BS.

Actually likely and apparently quite a lot of quite solid information is available. Likely a lot of it is on the Internet. I keep looking and hoping to find good sources although finding them is not my full time job.

I upchuck at FOX, NYT, LAT, WaPo, ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, CNN, PBS, and about everything else I can find. Law, medicine, engineering, etc. -- in none of these do we try to get by with the mushroom treatment we get from the media. If an airplane were designed with the information quality of the media, then it'd never get off the ground which, net, would be a good thing.

My concern is not partisanship but stupidity.

As voting citizens, we need solid information. With solid information, there's no way we'd be in the mess of The Great Recession or two wars each 10 years old.

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> 1. Fix the healthcare system. Right now, you're punished if you don't work for a large company in the sense that you're charged up the wazoo for health insurance. Work for a large company and it's close to free. No, it's not "almost free". It's paid for by the company. And yes, paying yourself is tax-deductible in many circumstances. I've actually paid for health insurance out of pocket as an "older american". Rent…

No, it's not "almost free". It's paid for by the company. You are correct, but large companies get dramatically better rates and better coverage than small companies. My family's small business has seen healthcare premiums increase more than 20% each year for the past few years. We have had to cut benefits (increase deductibles and copays, etc). It's a sad state of affairs that employees of large companies are insula…

More or less because reasonably-priced health insurance requires a risk pool in which membership isn't voluntary, and large companies provide such a pool by requiring that all their employees enroll in the company health insurance as a condition of employment (and pay their portion of the coverage fee with no opt-out allowed). The insurers assume that the number of people who'll turn down the job solely due to disagreeing with the mandatory-insurance aspect is small, so the coverage pool is in effect a large, mandatory-coverage pool selected for mostly-health-unrelated reasons, which is the kind that works as a risk pool.

Entrepreneurs don't have anything similar unless there is a way to aggregate themselves into a pool where the opt-ins don't correlate with health condition too strongly, which currently there isn't. Insurers for good reason don't give good terms to non-mandatory-coverage risk pools, because of the strong bias towards high-risk people in such pools. And good luck if you have any congenital health issues; my friend who has a from-birth heart defect is essentially banned from ever doing a startup due to the employment-tied nature of the U.S. healthcare system and the preexisting-condition rules that make the health-insurance-via-corporate-job approach the only one open to him.

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The lack of bankruptcy protection comes to mind.

A college education is one of the few properties that can’t be repossessed in the event of bankruptcy.

Neither can $15k in credit-card debt racked up eating at fancy restaurants, yet that is dischargeable in bankruptcy.

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The TARP money was just a payday loan until QE1, QE2, and now QE3 can take effect. Of course the banks paid the money back, they got the money from the discount window for free, which was printed by the gov't printing T-bills. Why stay on TARP when you can borrow money for free and pay TARP back? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_public_debt Look at the debt expansion which is necessary to directly funnel th…

Except the folks at ZeroHedge are nutters, while Randall Munroe used to work at NASA.

Apparently being a nutter gets you different results from a Bloomberg terminal than everybody else.

Who knew?

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Canadian here: Your post is kind of at odds with the final question you posed. You can have the money AND not sacrifice health outcomes. As you said, Cdn and US governments spend the same amount of money for the same outcomes.

Also Canada has dramatically less ethnic diversity, at least if I'm reading Wikipedia correctly.

Are you really suggesting that a few ethnic diseases would render the Canadian healthcare system unworkable? I find it very hard to believe that a few more cases sickle cell or whatever would have that kind of effect.

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> I've actually paid for health insurance out of pocket as an "older american". Rent was more expensive. I think you were very lucky. As a "young & healthy american," that was not my experience.

It's not luck, just state by state differences. Some states are much better than others.

What the fuck, downvoters. Seriously, health insurance is regulated differently on a state to state level, and some states have more consumer-friendly laws than others on the matter.

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Couldn't agree more. It definitely is a 'populist' trend to bash TARP and 'bailing out Wall Street', and while I do agree that the 15% capital gains tax needs to be raised (along with closing various loopholes that financiers and oil companies use to pay lower taxes), that oft-repeated position doesn't hold water. It's infuriating because people don't understand when the gov't actually acts in their best interest - e…

There's more! There was GM! Some of the money the US Treasury 'invested' in GM may not get paid back. So, we might say that GM got 'bailed out'. Hmm. As I understand it, there was a little more to the story: One approach to GM was just to let it go through an ordinary bankruptcy. But DC didn't want that. Why? My understanding is that in an ordinary bankruptcy, GM would have gotten off the hook in their labor contract…

I agree with most everything...Solyndra...definitely..that was gov't interferring with the markets at its worse. GM, I definitely agree...much better to go through a 'controlled bankruptcy' and have new mgmt negotiate with the UAW on more amenable pension & health arrangements. They are already making good progress there.

As for even AIG getting a 'bailout', I don't quite agree with that. Yes, they did get a ton of money, on seemingly 'cheap terms', but the logic is the same. If the insurer of all these financial instruments can't honor it's contracts...imagine the implications for the economy as a whole. Not only would they be reneging on contracts, enshrined in law, but many firms that purchased all sorts of insurance (not just on CDOs) - GE, Walmart, etc - on various assets/products would instantly be SOL.

So even if you take just the financial firms and their tanglings there out of the picture, in terms of getting back 100 cents on the dollar on their CDS Swaps, if AIG can't honor ANY of their contracts at a time when companies (all throughout the country in hundreds of industries) are experiencing softer aggregate demand and falling revenue, just that alone would be catastrophic beyond anything we have ever seen.

So I don't see it as an 'AIG bailout', but rather saving the US economy. Besides, they will be able to recoup their investment once they finish selling the useful assets and repairing the balance sheet over the long term.

Also, it's not just Fannie and Freddie that are to blame - as Bernanke said the exhorbitant global imbalances with countries running massive current account surpluses that creates an incentive for investors to put money to work. China doesn't want it's $3T sitting in cash, even just $100B sitting in cash could cost China about $2B - $10B/year depending on where it is sitting (just in inflation alone). So the pressure to at least do something to protect it against inflation is immense and that's just China.

Suffice it to say, there are many factors (from the mortgage tax credit to Fannie & Freddie to global imbalances to misaligned incentives on Wall St.) that are to blame. The damn media likes to play on the most populist and it's annoying.

One of the things I can say, is that I am impressed that people like Bernanke and Paulson can hold their nose and go against EVERYTHING they believe in (i.e. non-intervention in markets) and everything they have been taught and learned over their entire professional careers and completely violate these beliefs in a matter of days/weeks. It's easy to sit on the sidelines and vilify these people for their actions, when you don't quite understand the implications of non-action and even how tough it was for them to make those decisions. The fact is, these people ignored their beliefs and acted in the country's interest.

I am not even American and I can admire their actions.

Edit 1: To put their actions into perspective, it's the equivalent of being a 'pro-lifer' your entire life and in order to save the entire country you have to personally sanction wide-scale abortions. How many people would be able to do that? Might be a little dramatic, but I believe the parallels are similar.

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I'm disappointed by the amount of political commenting on this post, as opposed to what I was hoping to find—discussion of how the fund will actually work and how to take advantage of the various elements of the initiative.

I'm trying to make sense of the press release, but finding it difficult. It's full of announcements, but seems to be missing any calls to action.

There's more information at the SBA - http://www.sba.gov/startupamerica

It contains this promising paragraph: "…the gap is particularly acute in the so called “Valley of Death” for financing rounds between $1-4 million. Over the past 4 years only 6% of all venture capital has been deployed in that stage … The Innovation Fund will target this gap, providing a 1:1 match to private capital raised by early stage seed funds."

Does this mean that access to money in this fund is only through existing VC firms? Or does it mean something else?

If anyone can extract the actionable information from all this static, please do share.

It would be great to know if new funding methods were actually opening up, or if this is just an infusion of cash to VCs.

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Just as a side note, you really don't want an executive branch that can do that (fixing the immigration and patent systems). edit: sorry if it didn't end up as clear as it should

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The above isn't meant as a comment - it was a question that was answered by an edit in the grandparent, but I then carelessly edited this instead of deleting it. By the time I noticed the error the edit/delete window had closed.

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Let a thousand Solyndras bloom! But seriously, exempting smaller firms and fundraising efforts from costly regulations is a good part of this initiative. Routing public funds through private investors, not so much. While they're at it, they should completely eliminate the wealth tests for 'accredited investor' status. If some fig leaf of 'accreditation' is still needed, it should be experience-based or net-worth prop…

I don't recommend angel investing for anyone who can't afford to lose a fairly substantial amount of money, which pretty much excludes anyone who isn't already an accredited investor. Finding the next Facebook or Google is a lot harder than you might think, and even if you did, they probably don't want your money. You are better off investing in your own self (education and the like). Eliminating the wealth test woul…

What is "fairly substantial" here? $10k? $20k? $100k? I certainly know people willing to risk the first two but not the third (primarily early 30s professionals). $20k is plenty to participate in the seed round of a software startup. It seems silly to forbid people to invest an amount smaller than they would spend on a car (a guaranteed-depreciating asset over the next 10 years).
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