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Nobody cares about Chromebooks. They only matter in schools and they're almost certainly illegal in schools, so that will self-solve when those charges get addressed.
Illegal how?
India fines Google $162M for anti-competitive practices on Android
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Those are insignificant in comparison to Google Pay (or Tez as it used to be called).
Paytm and phone pe are not insignificant. > PhonePe (49.25%), Google Pay (34.6%), Paytm (10.65%) and CRED (1.8%) together processed 636 Cr UPI transactions worth INR 10.32 Lakh Cr https://inc42.com/buzz/top-four-upi-apps-held-96-market-in-a...
Re: India fines Google $162M for anti-competitive practices on Android
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> Maybe the Indian government needs to push separate bills prohibiting manufactures from packaging crapware One person's crapware is another person's batteries-included-ware. We wouldn't want to ban Sony MP3 players from including an app that plays music, right? Similar to how we wouldn't want iPods to be banned from coming with an in-built Apple Music.app client[1] Google's bundled-in variant of an internet browser…
"One person's crapware is another person's batteries-included-ware." Point me at an android phone mfg in the past couple years that didn't come with not just FB preinstalled, but unable to delete. Or a samsung phone that doesn't have that annoying nagware you can't get rid of. This isn't about 'batteries included' its about junkware being made impossible to remove. What makes you special enough we all have to do thin…
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The real issue is that Indian tech companies want to be able to bundle their crap with Android phones and still take advantage of the Google phone/Android brand. They're welcome to sell forks and bundle all the alternative software they want with whatever store they want, they just can't call it an Android phone or call themselves an Android manufacturer. What Google requires of OEMs has been known for a long time an…
> What Google requires of OEMs has been known for a long time and isn't a secret. They aren't being fined for keeping secrets. > Huawei and others successfully sell Android forks with alternative stores and apps. If it takes a 1 billion person market with no access to Google services and multiple gigantic partially state-owned companies (Baidu, Huawei, and Tencent at least) to create a competitor that's only viable i…
Re: India fines Google $162M for anti-competitive practices on Android
#117Don’t expect anything to happen immediately. This order will be appealed and Google will take it up to the Indian Supreme Court. 2/3 more years till it all gets resolved. Most likely parts of this order will get rescinded blin appeal. I don’t see the whole thing going away and certainly there is impact on Google’s business practices. However this will take time to play out. In the next 2/3 years Google will try to wo…
The SC is not there to negate every government decisions.
Re: India fines Google $162M for anti-competitive practices on Android
#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Maybe the Indian government needs to push separate bills prohibiting manufactures from packaging crapware One person's crapware is another person's batteries-included-ware. We wouldn't want to ban Sony MP3 players from including an app that plays music, right? Similar to how we wouldn't want iPods to be banned from coming with an in-built Apple Music.app client[1] Google's bundled-in variant of an internet browser…
"One person's crapware is another person's batteries-included-ware." Point me at an android phone mfg in the past couple years that didn't come with not just FB preinstalled, but unable to delete. Or a samsung phone that doesn't have that annoying nagware you can't get rid of. This isn't about 'batteries included' its about junkware being made impossible to remove. What makes you special enough we all have to do thin…
Re: India fines Google $162M for anti-competitive practices on Android
#119Here is the link to original order [ https://www.cci.gov.in/antitrust/press-release/details/261/0 ] some experts 13. Accordingly, in terms of the provisions of Section 27 of the Act, the Commission has imposed monetary penalty as well as issued cease and desist order against Google from indulging in anti-competitive practices that have been found to be in contravention of the provisions of Section 4 of the Act. Some…
That's a threat about $15bn of Apple's revenue...
Re: India fines Google $162M for anti-competitive practices on Android
#120This is a by-product of a simple thing: Google being the largest payment system provider in India. Google Pay in India is basically CashApp++ . And the govt is paranoid about the "Big Tech takeover of banking". Which is not very dissimilar to "Bust Up Big Tech Act". Google Pay is pre-installed on every android system. This is basically a browser war part 2.0. Except for payments.