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India fines Google $162M for anti-competitive practices on Android

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Re: India fines Google $162M for anti-competitive practices on Android

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This is a by-product of a simple thing: Google being the largest payment system provider in India.

Google Pay in India is basically CashApp++ . And the govt is paranoid about the "Big Tech takeover of banking". Which is not very dissimilar to "Bust Up Big Tech Act".

Google Pay is pre-installed on every android system. This is basically a browser war part 2.0. Except for payments.

Re: India fines Google $162M for anti-competitive practices on Android

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Here is the link to original order [ https://www.cci.gov.in/antitrust/press-release/details/261/0 ] some experts 13. Accordingly, in terms of the provisions of Section 27 of the Act, the Commission has imposed monetary penalty as well as issued cease and desist order against Google from indulging in anti-competitive practices that have been found to be in contravention of the provisions of Section 4 of the Act. Some…

here is my take.

currently there are all microsoft-y nudge user till they allow then say "user accepted"... case in point. i have a moto phone that has stock android. very nice. it has default sms as "messages". this app keeps nudging me to use "chat features" and other bs so the "dont use connected features" line is really small while accept is a big button. they dont want me to not accept so they keep pushing me.

same for "play protect". i have decided to not accept it so every often i install an app it asks me if i want to enable it.

same for "enable location". i keep my location off so when i have to use an app, i turn it on and i get a message "for better experience, tun on device location which uses google location service". so if i accept this, "google location accuracy" and "emergency location service" and even wifi scanning (sometimes) gets enabled so these are really scummy techniques.

i use F-droid as my default app store and aurora store to download apps not on f-droid. haven't signed in to play store because i don't have a google account.

these "keep nudging till the user accepts" should be banned as well. if the user does not want to allow location accuracy, don't auto enable it.

Re: India fines Google $162M for anti-competitive practices on Android

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post #14

Good in theory but Google's Android apps and Google forbidding Indian telcom companies and Chinese smartphone manufactures from installing adwarecrap has made the ultra-cheap smartphone experience somewhat tolerable for hundreds of millions of people. It's all going to be insufferable adware hell from now on.

i don't understand what you are trying to say?

Re: India fines Google $162M for anti-competitive practices on Android

#27

This is a by-product of a simple thing: Google being the largest payment system provider in India. Google Pay in India is basically CashApp++ . And the govt is paranoid about the "Big Tech takeover of banking". Which is not very dissimilar to "Bust Up Big Tech Act". Google Pay is pre-installed on every android system. This is basically a browser war part 2.0. Except for payments.

Aren't PayTM and PhonePe bigger?

Re: India fines Google $162M for anti-competitive practices on Android

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post #14

Good in theory but Google's Android apps and Google forbidding Indian telcom companies and Chinese smartphone manufactures from installing adwarecrap has made the ultra-cheap smartphone experience somewhat tolerable for hundreds of millions of people. It's all going to be insufferable adware hell from now on.

i don't understand what you are trying to say?

I read it as "Google having control was bad, but Google had been using that control to stop very bad things, so in practical terms this is actually bad news."

Re: India fines Google $162M for anti-competitive practices on Android

#29
post #14

Good in theory but Google's Android apps and Google forbidding Indian telcom companies and Chinese smartphone manufactures from installing adwarecrap has made the ultra-cheap smartphone experience somewhat tolerable for hundreds of millions of people. It's all going to be insufferable adware hell from now on.

other comment mentioning that "Ambani’s Reliance co will launch search next month." is not realistic. I mean even Bing is not able to capture significant market share of Google after all these years.

> Google forbidding Indian telcom companies and Chinese smartphone manufactures from installing adwarecrap has made the ultra-cheap smartphone experience somewhat tolerable for hundreds of millions of people.

however, this comment is also related to Ambani’s Jio (Subsidiary of Reliance) are planning to launch Android devices. And mind it, Jio is one of the largest telecom provider in India with the blessing of ruling party. Jio also have suits of all kind of applications like chat, payment, audio streaming like Spotify, and what not, etc. which is less of utility app and can be use as surveillance system for the government in the future.

India is heading towards government system like deadly mix of Russia in terms of democracy and China in terms of surveillance system (look at the recent telecom act amendment proposed by government in last month. Basically it can force any VoIP services such as WhatsApp to verify user identity.)

Current government was not approving WhatsApp license for UPI for years until after WhatsApp decided to invest in Jio [https://techcrunch.com/2020/06/24/india-approves-facebooks-5...] At that time few peoples were discussing that this investment is nothing but to bribe government and/or Jio to get UPI license. Now WhatsApp got that permission [https://techcrunch.com/2022/04/13/whatsapp-permitted-to-exte...]

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