Does it solve the freezing with dual monitors? [1]
[1] https://askubuntu.com/questions/1407630/os-freezing-with-dua...
Ubuntu 22.10 Kinetic Kudu
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#222Who benefits from snap?
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You don't need to be a developer, the average computer enthusiast is capable of googling the matter figuring it out. It may not be appropriate for the "colloquial grandmother" sort of user, but you certainly don't need to be a computer programmer to figure it out. There's a lot of ground in-between those. My dad is a retired accountant and a computer enthusiast since the 80s. Never a programmer, but he does this kind…
Googling =\= ootb.
Able to google =\= FLOSS dev
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> i.e. try to do a snap refresh while firefox is running, nothing to update, because its running, quit it wait for all processes to die and then refresh, and it will update and cause you to wait 30-60s while it does it, and then you can restart firefox. Oh, it's worse than that. When there is an update available but firefox is running you get: > % snap refresh > All snaps up to date. It doesn't even tell you there is…
This seems broken, full stop. Can Firefox itself, when installed via Snap, notify the user that it needs security updates? If so, can users effectively do that, or do they have to know this incantation of closing, waiting, running a terminal command, and restarting?
That’s a step backwards. The whole point of package managers is that the system manages software updates and the software itself can be completely oblivious to that.
Snap done properly it’d download and install the new version, point launchers to that and prompt the user to restart running snaps.
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Firefox is a particularly interesting case because it has a bunch of issues that only exist when it's installed via snap. I just recently ripped out the default snap version and installed via the official PPA, and Firefox seems to be running much smoother now. For basically any app I use that's installed via snap, I eventually run into a gamebreaking issue and have to remove the snap version and find a normal .deb to…
Snap makes sense, but it'll take time for the dust to settle. Just like Unity / Wayland. Applications like Firefox, IntelliJ, Chromium, etc. shouldn't be tied to system dependencies managed by apt. They should be entirely monolithic and hermetic. Long term this deb vs snap approach will make sense and be good for Desktop Linux.
> but it'll take time for the dust to settle.
I remember seeing it demoed at Canonical in 2015 or so. It’s been 7 years. How much longer should we wait?
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Snap makes sense, but it'll take time for the dust to settle. Just like Unity / Wayland. Applications like Firefox, IntelliJ, Chromium, etc. shouldn't be tied to system dependencies managed by apt. They should be entirely monolithic and hermetic. Long term this deb vs snap approach will make sense and be good for Desktop Linux.
If you say so, but I don't see why it should be forced on Ubuntu users by Canonical until then.
It’s just 6 or 7 years. Give them time.
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KDE would be superb if it weren't so buggy. KDE is aimed in the right direction, trying to do and be all the things a desktop environment should do and be. But unfortunately the implementation is frequently deficient. Even seemingly basic things frequently break, like re-applying mouse preferences when you unplug and replug your mouse: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=435113 A couple more recent annoyances, of ma…
That might be the case, but is there an alternative with a similar feature set? The latest GNOME versions are even buggier, and when it does work, it feels like a toy project compared to KDE. It's baffling to me that it's been years since the v3 controversy, yet the project still doesn't feel as mature and polished as KDE Plasma. All v2 forks also feel like someone's hobby project to bring disparate tools together, r…
I'm afraid I don't have a great answer. Right now I'm using LXQt with Kwin as my window manager; LXQt replaces Plasma and solves a lot of my problems with KDE, but isn't as slick as Plasma when Plasma is working. I replaced Dolphin with PCManFM, which isn't quite as slick either but it's adequate and seems to reliably watch directories for updates. I've stuck with some KDE applications, like Okular which has never disappointed me.
Re: Ubuntu 22.10 Kinetic Kudu
#228I upgraded from Ubuntu 20.04 to 22.04 recently, and am experiencing issues where Firefox feels sluggish and X hangs for a second when I type in the terminal too quickly. Makes me wanna move away from Ubuntu. Also the idea of these major updates where the package manager mutates half the filesystem for 30 minutes straight sounds like a super brittle procedure, and snaps seem to address this, except that it feels wrong…
I have this weird issue where holding volume down crashes the entire desktop . It is rather strange. No problem with other keys, no problem tapping volume down rather than holding it, no instability anywhere else that I've noticed. It is the strangest thing.
Please update if it turns out you discovered negative sound.
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I use OpenSUSE Tumbleweed which is also rolling release, and the one thing that bugs me is that sometimes your tools are so cutting edge that it makes it hard to get older stuff. For example it's super easy to get python 3.10 working in Tumbleweed but super hard to get python 3.6 working. I needed specifically Python 3.6 to test something, and man that was hard to get working in Tumbleweed. First of all, it is not av…
That's exactly the kind of stuff that https://github.com/pyenv/pyenv is meant to handle.
I started down that route as well but was running into the same gcc issues as when compiling manually. I found this issue https://github.com/pyenv/pyenv/issues/2046 but the workaround didn't immediately work for me and I didn't dig any deeper.
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#230Just to add a bit of positivity in the sea of negativity - thanks for Ubuntu, it has been very impactful in the ecosystem!
The comments are always a bit contrary to the topic here. I've used ubuntu since 2009, and I am still very much a fan. My preference is for ubuntuMATE, and I'll confess I'm not that keen on snaps, but overall, it's great to have an amazing free operating system to use like this.