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Re: iPad Pro M2

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Post by orangecat »

Veliladon wrote: post #6

Still can't believe the M2 chip is hobbled with Stage Manager. Dear Apple, I want my iPad to become a Finder based full-fat macOS when it's on the Magic Keyboard and I want it to be Springboard when I take it off the Magic Keyboard. Make it happen already.

I want my iPad to become a Finder based full-fat macOS when it's on the Magic Keyboard

And Apple doesn't want you running unapproved software so that's never going to happen unless macOS gets a lockdown mode (only app store apps, no terminal or Unix access, etc).

Re: iPad Pro M2

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Post by fsflover »

tshaddox wrote: post #234
lapcat wrote: post #15

I love how "Desktop-class apps" means extremely basic features available decades ago on desktop: "consistent undo and redo, a redesigned inline find-and-replace experience, a new document menu, customizable toolbars, and the ability to change file extensions, view folder size".

It seems reasonable for "desktop-class" to refer to the basic features that have typically distinguished desktop personal computers from alternatives like smartphones and tablets. What else would you expect "desktop-class" to mean?

> What else would you expect "desktop-class" to mean?

For example, PineTab runs full desktop GNU/Linux.

Re: iPad Pro M2

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Post by shagie »

schaefer wrote: post #277
shagie wrote: post #190

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For writing, have you checked out the remarkable? ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24295443 ) It's an e-ink display with paper like friction and if you really want to, you can shell into the linux system it runs on.

I’m not the op, but I am a “pen based note taking enthusiast“. I have owned both a gen 1 remarkable, and an older iPad Pro. In my opinion, the remarkable is garbage in comparison. The note taking app is just so far behind. And cross platform seems it’s never going to happen. My note taking app of choice is always: write, by stylus labs. It’s wonderful, and really expresses what I hoped pen based writing would always…

> Remarkable could win me back by opening the platform and allowing my to install write by stylus labs.

It's linux under the cover that you can connect to if you know the password (in the settings).

There's a whole bunch of apps that you can side load into it.

https://github.com/reHackable/awesome-reMarkable

I'm not sure there's anything preventing you from installing write by stylus labs other than that no one appears to have ported it to the device.

Re: iPad Pro M2

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Post by 0xCMP »

I used to be a die-hard iPad-for-coding user, but with the advent of the M1 MBAs I couldn't justify it anymore.

The thing that broke me was that if I wanted a remote development env (because at the end of the day you can't do development on an iPad without some remote computer running stuff for you) at the time you needed to a) provision on via safari manually b) have some kind of script or something on the iPad capable of doing that for you c) have a cheap/low-power computer always running to run the scripts. [This is assuming you don't have a remote computer already you can turn on. E.g. "only iPad + on-demand cloud resources"]

I eventually concluded the M1 MBA is a better option because of how heavy an iPad Pro 12" + Magic KB Case is in comparison.

I still *love* my iPad Pro. The screen is almost a good enough reason to use it. Also it had LTE which was very useful.

I still think it's possible to make the iPad do everything I wanted the M1 MBA to do without significantly changing how Apps are developed or restrictions on iPadOS (and apps like ShellFish, WorkingCopy, and Blink Shell are really my go-to examples of how that could have existed all this time), but while possible today it's just much higher friction and cost to use an iPad to do the same thing an entry-level M1 MBA could do.

Re: iPad Pro M2

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Post by bluescrn »

cube2222 wrote: post #399
thefz wrote: post #389

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Maybe it's just me, but I can't think doing any meaningful work without access to the filesystem.

What do you mean with "filesystem" specifically, that isn't available on iPads? There's the Files app.

But very few apps built to work files/folders.

Image files?.... they obviously want to be mixed in with your photos!

Media files?.... you don't want those!, would you like to subscribe to Apple Music?

Re: iPad Pro M2

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Post by herpderperator »

chrisbolt wrote: post #405
herpderperator wrote: post #166

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Dual-band (one device using both 2.4GHz and 5GHz) has existed for over a decade.

That only uses one band at a time, with separate IPs and MAC addresses for each.

That's not what simultaneous dual-band means.[0]

[0] https://www.google.com/search?q=simultaneous+dual+band

Re: iPad Pro M2

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Post by theshrike79 »

Gwarzo wrote: post #34

I would almost want to create a new thread for this, but what is the use case of a tablet? Is this for fulltime physical meeting goers to stylishly take notes? Is there some benefit to using this over a laptop?

I can whip out my iPad when I'm on the train to work and watch streamed or locally downloaded stuff, a laptop is way too cumbersome for that even on a semi-crowded train.

With a keyboard cover I can actually use it for messaging, emails, IM and maybe light writing. Using a stylus, I can either take freeform notes or draw stuff faster than I can with a mouse or touchpad.

And in the pre-M1 days an iPad smoked pretty much every laptop in battery performance.

Re: iPad Pro M2

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Post by lucisferre »

jmole wrote: post #384
pinot wrote: post #366

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Anything in the gSuite is terrible on iPadOS. Excel is also fairly crippled. I can’t see how it’s usable at all. Even just for emailing, GMail at least is a terrible application on iPad. For examples, cannot format anything, or view one email while writing another (that isn’t a reply). I primarily use mine for * Note taking * Browsing/showing PDFs in a construction engineering setting. Nothing is faster or as flexibl…

I disagree, I think there are 4 good GSuite apps on iPadOS: GMail, Meet, Calendar, and Drive. With the magic floaty keyboard, even long emails feel fine on iPad. Unfortunately, Docs, Slides & Sheets are pretty terrible, and fall far short of the desktop experience. For those apps, a Chromebook would be a much better choice. If only they made Chromebooks with trackpads as good as Apple's laptops, or even as good as th…

Meet is in my experience worse than Zoom and Teams, and with the latter that is saying something.

Gmail and Calendar are great. Drive is also sub-par in experience when compared to Dropbox (probably Box as well though I've not used it)

Oddly Sheets is the only one I like. It is good enough for most use cases and simpler and easier to use than Excel.

I've never even considered using Docs or Slides.

Re: iPad Pro M2

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Post by Lio »

danielmarkbruce wrote: post #433
Terretta wrote: post #223

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On the contrary, I have owned MacBook Pros from the first to the last 17", then again every model since the 16". I also have iPad Pro with magic keyboard and touch pad. I don't travel with the MacBook any more, as I can do anything from the iPad. But it's not just me. I've also been CTO at mega bank and hedge funds where we've rolled these out along side laptops. I've found that after initial objections, folks tend t…

>> Then the support costs basically go to zero, which matters a good deal at scale. Genuine question - what is the biggest time sink/cost for support on laptops? Put another way, exactly why do support costs drop so much with the ipads?

I remember a project in the early 00s at a place I was working. They were rolling out Windows tablets to installation engineers[1].

The justification was to reduce breakages to the screen and hinge of laptops[2]. It sounds daft but apparently it was not uncommon for people to leave their van keys on the keyboard and then shut the lid on them.

By switching to tablets they hoped to get rid of that failure mode.

I imagine that's quite specific but just having less moving parts will increase reliability in a large organisation. A keyboard on a ThinkPad might be easy to change if it fails but a keyboard an iPad will be even easier as it's not attached permanently.

1. In this particular case that means people in hard hats and high viz going up telephone poles and into holes in the ground all day.

2. Standard issue at the time was Panasonic ToughBooks.

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