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I bought an iPad in 2020 fully thinking it’s gonna collect dust like all my other tablets over the years. Nowadays I use it more than my laptop. With the magic keyboard and pen, it really has become the perfect portable computing device. Great for writing, great for sketching diagrams, even good for light coding (like for code samples). And it is fantastic for creating talk slides and even presenting full day worksho…

Is this 11 or 13" one? I found smaller keyboard is too painful to use. Maybe you can get used to as a daily, but will be upgrading to larger one.

I have the 11". Probably couldn't use that keyboard all day, but for a few hours of writing at a time it's perfect.

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On the contrary, I have owned MacBook Pros from the first to the last 17", then again every model since the 16". I also have iPad Pro with magic keyboard and touch pad. I don't travel with the MacBook any more, as I can do anything from the iPad. But it's not just me. I've also been CTO at mega bank and hedge funds where we've rolled these out along side laptops. I've found that after initial objections, folks tend t…

Why do the support costs go to zero? I would think iPads would bring their own set of problems/hazards that laptops may not have.

It’s next to impossible to get an iPad to a non-working state.

A creative user with a Windows laptop can do it easily unless it’s really tightly locked and controlled.

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It's still pathetic they won't let you run OS X on it.

From Apple's perspective, macOS is a legacy product with the undesirable ability to run software of your choice without giving them a cut.

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There's a good local wedding photographer here who edits 90% of her commercial work on her iPad Pro now

Surely the full version of Adobe Lightroom on a mac would offer more features than the ipad?

Apparently they don’t need all those extra features 90% of the time. The ipad in conjunction with the pencil is a very powerful photo editing tool.

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I bought an iPad in 2020 fully thinking it’s gonna collect dust like all my other tablets over the years. Nowadays I use it more than my laptop. With the magic keyboard and pen, it really has become the perfect portable computing device. Great for writing, great for sketching diagrams, even good for light coding (like for code samples). And it is fantastic for creating talk slides and even presenting full day worksho…

It seems like iPad's main feature is that Apple refuses to put a touchscreen or 180degree hinge on a laptop. Laptop has a bigger screen for drawing and coding.

Dunno. For real coding I need a big monitor, a real keyboard, and a proper mouse. My laptop lives in its dock and the only time the built-in screen/keyboard get used are when I'm traveling and can't work from the home office.

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On the contrary, I have owned MacBook Pros from the first to the last 17", then again every model since the 16". I also have iPad Pro with magic keyboard and touch pad. I don't travel with the MacBook any more, as I can do anything from the iPad. But it's not just me. I've also been CTO at mega bank and hedge funds where we've rolled these out along side laptops. I've found that after initial objections, folks tend t…

Why do the support costs go to zero? I would think iPads would bring their own set of problems/hazards that laptops may not have.

Basically, they're an appliance, and hard for a user to screw up.

Of course it's not actually zero.

There's always someone whose finger can't poke things that will ask where the mouse is, or why this stupid iPad doesn't run Lotus 1,2,3 -- and you have to respect their challenges. Or of course (rare) hardware faults, and you have to provision a new one.

But the appliance-ness of it makes it a support dream.

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I bought a 2G ipad pro and it was very useful as just a writing tablet. Unlimited paper, though I had to get a paper-like screen protector since otherwise their wasn't enough friction between the screen and the pen to make me happy. I'm disappointed there aren't more pen-based programming experiences out there, but I can't really think of any useful ones myself either.

For writing, have you checked out the remarkable? ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24295443 ) It's an e-ink display with paper like friction and if you really want to, you can shell into the linux system it runs on.

I’m not the op, but I am a “pen based note taking enthusiast“.

I have owned both a gen 1 remarkable, and an older iPad Pro. In my opinion, the remarkable is garbage in comparison. The note taking app is just so far behind. And cross platform seems it’s never going to happen.

My note taking app of choice is always: write, by stylus labs. It’s wonderful, and really expresses what I hoped pen based writing would always be. Especially the undo-wheel. For quickly scrolling back a whole word or sentence. But the real killer here is that it’s cross platform. I can move the notes to the native Linux app or the native windows app.

That having been said, I am forever annoyed that I can’t run Xcode on either Linux or my $1000+ iPad. Also, on the iPad, there are ridiculous restrictions in how you are allowed to run apps side by side in split screen.

/sigh

So the race for the good pen note taking device is still on for me.

I have hope that soon the Pine Note will take off and allow me to finally run write by stylus labs on a platform with development tools. In this case Linux.

Again, Apple could win me back by opening access to dev tools. Either in the iPad itself or cross platform on Linux/windows—or by allowing me to install macOS on the iPad.

Remarkable could win me back by opening the platform and allowing my to install write by stylus labs.

Dell or Lenovo could win the race by shipping a 2-in-1 with a current generation processor and Linux officially supported, and preferably pre installed.

But it honestly looks like pine 64 is out in front in this race.

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I Work IT in a institution with 290 employees and have had 5 switch to iPad Pro's to "replace" their laptop. I am now 5 for 5 with all asking for their laptop back. iPadOS is nothing more than iPhoneOS renamed and the device is still too heavily crippled for desktop/laptop replacement. In my mini test case scenario I never said a word..simply the employee asked for iPad Pro.. I just handed it to them... waited... the…

On the contrary, I have owned MacBook Pros from the first to the last 17", then again every model since the 16". I also have iPad Pro with magic keyboard and touch pad. I don't travel with the MacBook any more, as I can do anything from the iPad. But it's not just me. I've also been CTO at mega bank and hedge funds where we've rolled these out along side laptops. I've found that after initial objections, folks tend t…

The biggest drawback of iPad OS is lack of windows, to drag around.If you don't need to multitask - iPad is OK.

I tried going all iPad and my husband opted for iPad Pro as personal computer - it is woefully underutilized.

"And that's not just me"

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Not even Photoshop -- Photoshop is mainly about editing, well, photos, while ProCreate is about natural-looking brush painting. Photoshop certainly has brushes, but it's not even attempting any kind of naturalism. People don't generally "paint" in Photoshop. [Edit: from comments below, I stand corrected. Guess it's just the people I know.] I'm not sure what you call that category of app -- painting apps? Natural-medi…

Photoshop is one of the primary painting apps in the professional industry. From illustrators to matte painters, photoshop is probably the most common painting app you’ll find.

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I love how "Desktop-class apps" means extremely basic features available decades ago on desktop: "consistent undo and redo, a redesigned inline find-and-replace experience, a new document menu, customizable toolbars, and the ability to change file extensions, view folder size".

It has always been artificial market segmentation. Their message is clear: don't buy apple if you want a laptop with a touchscreen. Apple will only sell you oversized phones and regular laptops.

> don't buy apple if you want a laptop with a touchscreen

Keep buying Apple laptops, got it. I know that a large number of people keep asking for laptop with touchscreen, but this is one design decision where I whole heartedly with Apple. Touchscreen on laptops make no sense. The use case for a touchscreen is significantly different from a laptop that it makes sense to have two classes of devices.

Then again, I don't really get the large number of iPads sold either. It seems like an extremely niche devices which would only find a use case in certain types of industry.

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