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Dear JetBrains, Don't mess with your UI

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Re: Dear JetBrains, Don't mess with your UI

#102
post #89

Eh, I have used vim, spacemacs, sublime, vscode, atom, eclipse and netbeans. Jetbrains IDEs have superior functionality out of the box across languages and don’t require me to mess with and debug a million plugins. I don’t mind a UI refresh, it’s going to be just like the gmail refresh everyone hated it and now we’re all fine with it. I just wish they would invest more money into things that are actually a problem cu…

> I don’t mind a UI refresh, it’s going to be just like the gmail refresh everyone hated it and now we’re all fine with it. We are not fine with it. It really sucks. It's just out of our hands. To this day I hate the gmail interface. It used to be so much better back in the day.

Nah I'm fine with it, because I never go to the website and just use mail clients; I can tolerate you its existence, out of sight out of mind and all that.

Actually I did use the web client one time recently and I literally couldn't find an email I knew I'd just received; my inbox is kept at 0 unread; so in theory it should have been impossible NOT to see it, right? After the initial confusion then annoyance came the realisation and I just went and found my phone to read it on.

Re: Dear JetBrains, Don't mess with your UI

#103
Yet another another great product that is falling prey to the newism ideology where change is almost worshipped for its own sake. You see this problem everywhere nowadays from Cinemas to architecture. People have lost the ability to appreciate timeless designs. Another good example of this is the new Apple iPhone 14 pro hole. To many it is better because it is newer. Never mind that the fact that there is actually now a narrow band of useless pixels at the top of the hole and overall contiguous vertical center screen height is reduced.

Re: Dear JetBrains, Don't mess with your UI

#104
post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I don’t mind a UI refresh, it’s going to be just like the gmail refresh everyone hated it and now we’re all fine with it. We are not fine with it. It really sucks. It's just out of our hands. To this day I hate the gmail interface. It used to be so much better back in the day.

I’ve used gmail pretty much since day 1, but I can’t recall any of the previous interfaces. What were the good features of previous ones?

No wasted space. More colorful. More buttons.

It was more pleasant to look at and provided more useful functionality on the UI.

The modern trend of wasting space and erasing colors is really bad.

The only new feature I like is the "tab" categories (but only on desktop). Though they really botched it because now I'm confused about the difference between categories and labels so I don't use labels anymore. IMO they should have used the existing labels system for that.

Re: Dear JetBrains, Don't mess with your UI

#105
I’m sorry, It’s impossible to take someone seriously who considers them professional and yet relies on clicking (!) icons for their workflow in IDE. The only right way to work on IntelliJ products is to leave only code editor, hide everything else and work through keyboard.

Re: Dear JetBrains, Don't mess with your UI

#106
post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I don’t mind a UI refresh, it’s going to be just like the gmail refresh everyone hated it and now we’re all fine with it. We are not fine with it. It really sucks. It's just out of our hands. To this day I hate the gmail interface. It used to be so much better back in the day.

I’ve used gmail pretty much since day 1, but I can’t recall any of the previous interfaces. What were the good features of previous ones?

Fast and light which it currently is not.

It was also pretty easy to find and read your email, which it currently is not.

Re: Dear JetBrains, Don't mess with your UI

#107
post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I don’t mind a UI refresh, it’s going to be just like the gmail refresh everyone hated it and now we’re all fine with it. We are not fine with it. It really sucks. It's just out of our hands. To this day I hate the gmail interface. It used to be so much better back in the day.

I’ve used gmail pretty much since day 1, but I can’t recall any of the previous interfaces. What were the good features of previous ones?

It loaded quickly and was snappy.

Re: Dear JetBrains, Don't mess with your UI

#108

Eh, I have used vim, spacemacs, sublime, vscode, atom, eclipse and netbeans. Jetbrains IDEs have superior functionality out of the box across languages and don’t require me to mess with and debug a million plugins. I don’t mind a UI refresh, it’s going to be just like the gmail refresh everyone hated it and now we’re all fine with it. I just wish they would invest more money into things that are actually a problem cu…

If I had a nickel for the number of time I accidentally deleted an email in the new Gmail interface, I could buy out Google and force them to git reset it back to the old version. I for one (of many) are not fine with it.

Re: Dear JetBrains, Don't mess with your UI

#109

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Switch branches? Let's index it all again! Working on a Rust project? Let's index the Go stdlib. It'll be ready in 10-20 min, please hold. I've been waiting for indexing improvemence for over 10 years, not holding my breath.

Do I just have a really fast computer (I’m using a MacBook Pro)? I’ve never experienced this indexing issue.

While not quite 10 minutes, I'm on a 12 core i7 Dell XPS, I have to switch between half a dozen or so Go projects in a day sometimes and it really can take a couple of minutes each; long enough to be annoying, not long enough to grab a coffee.

Edit: I should say 12-thread, not 12-core, just to be clear on the performance level we're expecting here. It's a 6c/12t i7.

Re: Dear JetBrains, Don't mess with your UI

#110
post #33
post #14

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to be honest, not sure why they have to explain themselves. started using JetBrains products when Eclipse became a monstrosity. this is not the first time the UI has changed. and it has always been gradual, with options to customize. they don't have to explain themselves here.

True, but people will also not have to explain themselves when they eventually switch to VS Code because VS Code is free, has the same UI, and get more feature rich by the week.

Of course not. IntelliJ is on another level when it comes features, if you really think people use IntelliJ for their UI, you’re deeply mistaken.
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