Maybe I don't understand the praise but the JetBrains UI is one of the most clunky UIs I've ever used for coding. I'm honestly glad to see something more VSCode-like in Fleet.
Dear JetBrains, Don't mess with your UI
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Re: Dear JetBrains, Don't mess with your UI
#12JetBrains also published a separate post addressing the concerns about the new UI https://blog.jetbrains.com/idea/2022/06/addressing-the-new-u...
I'm not even being cynical --- this to me reads like: Sure, we will eventually shove it down your throat whether you like it or not, so there's no need to worry for the time being!
Re: Dear JetBrains, Don't mess with your UI
#13JetBrains also published a separate post addressing the concerns about the new UI https://blog.jetbrains.com/idea/2022/06/addressing-the-new-u...
> The current UI will remain available for at least two years, and we’re not going to remove it until we’ve seen that the vast majority of our users have successfully made the switch to the new UI. Also, very few of the design decisions you see now in the new UI are final, and we’re open to revisiting them based on your feedback.
I smell the Reddit moment of "well, we see that you hate it so we won't remove the old one, we will just subtly break it in more and more ways till we brownbeat you to move. After all we can't say we wasted money on redesign to our bossess" moment.
Re: Dear JetBrains, Don't mess with your UI
#14JetBrains also published a separate post addressing the concerns about the new UI https://blog.jetbrains.com/idea/2022/06/addressing-the-new-u...
to be honest, not sure why they have to explain themselves. started using JetBrains products when Eclipse became a monstrosity. this is not the first time the UI has changed. and it has always been gradual, with options to customize.
they don't have to explain themselves here.
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#15Wow, that looks pretty much exactly like VS code!
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#16"The whole interface is going to feel like turbulent molasses"
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#17If you use keyboard shortcuts for everything , as I do, the rest of the UI outside of the editor really doesn't matter a whole lot. I won't be searching for buttons based on color memory or anything like that.
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Re: Dear JetBrains, Don't mess with your UI
#18After years of using IntelliJ I finally moved to VSCode.
IntelliJ simply could do C/C++ but they chose to push people towards a new IDE... C Lion. That was a huge blow for me, a polyglot.
Then I had a couple of bug opened with them... it took years for them to fix it. Except they marked it as fixed and it was indeed not fixed... Years later!
I kept paying until that point, I just couldn't do it anymore.
The company is a victim of its own success if you ask me. And that's a shame.
VSCode isn't perfect, but it does 90% of what IntelliJ does, and arguably 40% of it better. Also VSCode is faster which still boggles my mind as to how that's possible. I suppose the buttload of cash that Microsoft has thrown at it probably helps there... Since IntelliJ went through their "milliseconds latency blabla" years ago, it's gone downhill.
I imagine that retina pixel displays + java 2nd class child on the macOS platform = big oof (pre-metal).
I dream of a native vscode-like IDE...
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#19Literally the last thing I want in my IDE is anything to be animated.
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#20> A user interface is like an API for your eyeballs. Great analogy.
Not really because most often when working with APIs you figure out what you need then you disproportionately more time using it - UI is used for triggering short running operations - if the cost of finding it is high it's often higher than (not) using the tool. And often it's used to interact with rarely used or unknown features - UI clutter just leads to a mess - not discoverability.