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87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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The phones from an ad company let you use apps not made by the ad company with the same functionality. The phones from the luxury and ads company don't.

You can side-load any app you want onto your iPhone - you just create a provisioning profile.

Can you side-load an app that acts as the default maps link handler?

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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You can side-load any app you want onto your iPhone - you just create a provisioning profile.

Can you side-load an app that acts as the default maps link handler?

I don't know, I'm not your search engine - look it up.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Nationalistic flamewar, and any flamewar, is not ok on HN. It's not what this site is for, and it destroys what it is for. You've been breaking the site guidelines repeatedly, including elsewhere in this thread. If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here, we'd appreciate it.

Flamewar where?

Pejorative putdowns of countries are nationalistic flamebait, regardless of which country you have a problem with.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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That's kinda surprising given apparently it was only a few months back that iPhone's market share finally surpassed Android in the U.S., and it bodes pretty well for Apple's long term future - are there stats on how often people change between Apple/Android (and is it predominantly in a particular direction)? (FWIW I think I went through two iPhones 15 years ago when they first came out I guess, but found their screens overly prone to getting smashed and switched to Android/Samsung, lots of reasons I doubt I'd ever switch back now, though it's certainly not impossible).

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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iMessage doesn’t use SMS when communicating with other iPhones.

But it does fallback to SMS when communication with any other OS (I guess now just Android). Which is kinda the point. WhatsApp doesn't do this, it works on all platforms.

> WhatsApp doesn't do this, it works on all platforms.

…as long as the recipient also has WhatsApp.

If WhatsApp were to support communicating with non-WhatsApp recipients, it would have to fall back to SMS, I imagine.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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As I said, everyone I know is on apple so no I don’t notice the difference. I have seen a couple occasional when non Apple users are on a group text and it breaks some things. I can totally see how teens are judging each other on this. They’re judgmental creatures in search of social cues to judge you on. Having android is analogous to wearing cheap Walmart clothes in my day. You’re social clout takes a huge hit. I g…

Why switch context? Everybody that matters to everybody I now is on whatsapp. I actually like this distinction Europe vs US - we don't have any personal ego polishing at stake and chest thumping about how country XYZ is greatest, we take what we consider best for us, facts are enough. Fearmongering about China is also less intense here, as if one had to realize that most top android models are not made in China, and…

> Why switch context? Everybody that matters to everybody I now is on whatsapp.

Replace the word "whatsapp" with "iMessage" and you've described my situation. That's why I don't context switch. We're talking like once a year maybe I encounter someone not on Apple that says they're on something else. A similar situation happens with P2P payment apps. Someone may say let me Venmo you, but if you don't have Venmo you're more likely to just say I don't have Venmo and default back to traditional payments. Or counter with, do you have Zelle? (if you have Zelle).

My in-laws were expats and coming home to the US was always a huge culture shock because nobody here used WhatsApp. I know that's not true. There's probably some stats out there that show usage of WhatsApp and Android is very substantial in the US. However, unfortunately, I think that in a way those stats and my experience outline the class divide here. If you can afford it, you have an iPhone.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Agree GP is an anomaly and will say 15 could be an exaggeration a bit. I don’t know really but iPhone has been around a long time now and people seem to replace typically every 1-2 years.

Not in most European or African countries, majority is on pre-paid, and phones only get replaced when there is an actual reason, not that two years have gone by.

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Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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15th phone in total, would be fairly average for someone who has had mobile phones for 30 years. I suspect that's what the GP meant. Smartphone adoption is still not anywhere universal and many, many, are still on their first smart phone since a few years back.

He specifically said 15th iphone. iphones have been around for 15 years.

Yeah that was me, and I am talking iPhone. Don't try to overanalyze the "15". There's nothing scientific about it I just made it up and put the tilde in front. Didn't realize it would be the focus of such debate. It could be 10 or 20. Most people I know were early adopters and have replaced every 1-2 years and have also probably broken a couple along the way requiring early replacement. I'm also not claiming my observation is representative of anything other than that, I'm sure it wouldn't match some larger dataset. It's biased by a ton of factors. I was trying to point out 2 things;

1) we've used iphone's since the beginning and are pretty loyal, would likely never consider non iPhone

2) we don't tend to switch apps for "inclusivity" as the original comment parent stated. We blatantly exclude people that are not on the Apple product ecosystem by being rather inflexible to even try the universe of platform agnostic options (WhatsApp, etc).

This is my experience in the US. Basically, we're acting like the teenagers except in a not so mean and judgemental way.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Yes, there are no ads in Xiaomi phones, nobody force you to use preinstalled Xiaomi apps and there are no ads if you pay attention during setup and don't just click Next but read what's shown on screen. Brand new iPhone cost 380EUR without any plan same as 6A? Provide please link, I will make tons of money reselling them, thank you.

> Yes, there are no ads in Xiaomi phones [...] if you pay attention during setup and don't just click Next but read what's shown on screen Enough said.

> As it stands, Apple currently serves up ads in the likes of the App Store, News and Stocks apps

https://www.tomsguide.com/news/iphones-are-reportedly-gettin...

Yeah, because Apple apps don't have ads. Enough said.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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post #793

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Flamewar where?

Pejorative putdowns of countries are nationalistic flamebait, regardless of which country you have a problem with.

You should Google flamebait, which is also distinct from flamewar
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