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87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Post by realusername »

dopeboy wrote: post #604
GekkePrutser wrote: post #332

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In the budget range it's the other way around though. For €300 you get a decent phone with bezelless 120Hz OLED screen. The iPhone SE that is almost €600 doesn't even have any of that. Cool that it's made from finely crafted aluminium but the screen is what I interact with constantly.

When I refer to craftmanship, I'm referring to the software experience. No slugishness, no crashes - everything just works.

To each their own, iOS software had quite a few bugs I experienced on mobile and all the bugs were part of the reason I switched back

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Post by emoII »

danielodievich wrote: post #84
rsync wrote: post #2

My two oldest children - 13 and 15 - have loudly proclaimed that having a "green bubble" would be worse than death .

My two high scoolers are produ members of Android generation and apparently dong give a damn as long as they get to play games and chat on discord and text with girls. I am going to count that as a win against the industrial marketing complex.

Granted I don't live in the US, but is Apple even spending a lot on marketing the iPhone in later years? I feel like their success is based on social pressure/word of mouth more than bombarding the public with messages. At least where I live, most of the iPhone ads are made by carriers if anything

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Post by rajbot »

salt-thrower wrote: post #278
rajbot wrote: post #222

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All incoming texts, whether sms or iMessage, show up in a gray bubble. Only your own outgoing texts are in a colored bubble

That's patently incorrect. Incoming texts from my Android-user contacts are green bubbles. Incoming texts from my iPhone-user contacts are blue. Source: I'm looking at my iPhone right now.

No, your iPhone does not magically work differently than everyone else’s.

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Post by armadsen »

mixmastamyk wrote: post #532
vlan0 wrote: post #249

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And with a much better regard for security! For instance, you could still own an iPhone 5s, released in 2013, and receive security updates.

< 7 is now unsupported for the latest OS. Maybe will get one more bugfix.

Apple releases security updates for older OSes. They recently released iOS 12.5.6, for example.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Post by thiht »

fomine3 wrote: post #593
sneak wrote: post #38

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RCS is less of an industry standard than iMessage. Apple built something better. So did Google. Then Google killed theirs. Then they did the same thing three more times. It's no wonder nobody wants to use Google messaging, and that Google resorts to smear campaigns. People would rather use WhatsApp spyware from FB/Meta or totally unencrypted Discord/Slack than bother with another Google IM product (which, let's be cl…

> Apple built something better. I want to against this. Even if the app is well made, messaging platform only for specific company's devices is completely broken idea. Tragedy is that US people adopted completely broken platform.

It does fallback to SMS though, so in practice it’s compatible with non Apple devices.

I text Android users all the time and besides the green bubble I don’t see much difference honestly

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Post by woutr_be »

jmt_ wrote: post #481
bloqs wrote: post #322

Americans, do people not use whatsapp over there? In Europe everyone uses whatsapp for literally everything, with a sprinkling of Telegram if you are into something a little subversive and Signal if you actually care about privacy. The only time I use text/sms is to recieve codes for things, and I'm doing that less and less.

Lifelong US citizen here - I've barely heard anyone mention it in person my whole life. If it wasn't for reading about it in discussions like this, I would probably never even think about it. iMessage, social media DMs, and regular SMS seem to be the most common in my experience. Signal/Telegram are pretty much only used here by tech people and/or people discussing not-so-wholesome things and I'm always surprised to…

> If it wasn't for reading about it in discussions like this, I would probably never even think about it.

I'm the same, but in the sense that I can't even begin to understand that people will marginalize each other based on the colors of their text messages, or that it would even matter at all. Having lived in Asia for the last ten years, having multiple chat apps is just so normal, most of my friends use WhatsApp, some use Messenger. Friends in China is WeChat, some friends from Japan and Thailand use Line.

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Post by lern_too_spel »

smcleod wrote: post #102
danielodievich wrote: post #84

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My two high scoolers are produ members of Android generation and apparently dong give a damn as long as they get to play games and chat on discord and text with girls. I am going to count that as a win against the industrial marketing complex.

You think giving them phones from an Ad company is a win /against/ the marketing industry?

The phones from an ad company let you use apps not made by the ad company with the same functionality. The phones from the luxury and ads company don't.

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Post by sofixa »

qubitcoder wrote: post #620
saxonww wrote: post #521

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I don't think it's this simple. RCS is implemented by carriers and is a feature of mobile service like SMS. It has a qualification/accreditation process. iMessage is an internet service. If I were Apple, I would not budge. I haven't used iMessage, so I don't know how it behaves, but my own personal RCS experience has not been good. I am on Google Fi and make heavy use of Google Messages and specifically their web app…

Respectfully, this comment solidifies why iMessage is superior. Try sending a 4K HDR video, or low-quality video, files, or photos with a resolution greater than a Nokia phone from 10 years ago, or a multitude of other things over SMS. Signal, WhatsApp, etc. don't come close to what iMessage offers seamlessly. For iPhone/macOS/iPadOS users, SMS is garbage. Yes, it's a closed system; but it works without a cell signal…

> Signal, WhatsApp, etc. don't come close to what iMessage offers seamlessly

In what way? I know WhatsApp compress media files, which is why people use Telegram when high quality matters. Is there anything else? In any case Signal and WhatsApp have UX barely better than SMS, the real comparison should be against something with legitimately better UX. Is iMessage better than Telegram?

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Post by lern_too_spel »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #472
eatsyourtacos wrote: post #116

I hate apple with a passion for not opening up iMessage, but here we are. That being said, I am getting my first iPhone in just a few days because I am sick of the 100000 choices between android phones that all suck in one way or another. I don't believe they will last more than a few years if my last samsung is any indication. And I don't give a crap about what android can do- I just want a phone that works. So I gu…

My next smartphone is gonna be an iPhone as well. Android is becoming ever more locked down, hardware attestation is already a thing and there's really no reason for apps to not require it. What's the point of putting up with Android's imperfections and Google's bullshit if my rooted and customized phone can't run the apps I need because I "tampered" with it? Might as well get an iPhone.

Because Android lets you run apps that iOS won't, including apps that you write yourself. Attestation is a security issue. If there's some useful feature you can't get on Android, that is a permission issue. It is silly to throw permissions out the window and allow apps to do absolutely anything. Instead, make an appropriate permission.

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Post by JPKab »

plsbenice34 wrote: post #226
pessimizer wrote: post #195

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You're assuming the relationship is nasty. It isn't a given that people who raise kids differently than you do will fill them with hatred and bitterness.

"monitoring the little bastard doesn't know about via my WiFi router" proves for me but of course that will be a matter of opinion

My son and I have a great relationship.

I’m originally from West Virginia. Its our way of saying “good kid, gets into trouble sometimes though”.

He’s a straight A student.

When he had unmonitored internet, he wasn’t. His friends who have unmonitored internet aren’t.

Leaving teenagers with anytime unfiltered internet access to highly addictive services like TikTok is scientifically shown to be harmful.

He’s not an adult. This isn’t complicated.

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