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87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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I see a lot of heat over SMS. In Italy almost no one stil use SMSs, they are basically dead. Almost all use Whatsapp, Telegram or both, no one use iMessage, not even iPhone owners, because smartphone market is much more balanced towards Android phones.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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You think giving them phones from an Ad company is a win /against/ the marketing industry?

The phones from an ad company let you use apps not made by the ad company with the same functionality. The phones from the luxury and ads company don't.

You can side-load any app you want onto your iPhone - you just create a provisioning profile.

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Given the iPhone's marketshare, is it RCS really the industry standard?

Android is ~72% of the global market: https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/mobile So, yes.

But most of those Android users are on WhatsApp. So, it's really WhatsApp that's the global standard, not RCS.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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I hate apple with a passion for not opening up iMessage, but here we are. That being said, I am getting my first iPhone in just a few days because I am sick of the 100000 choices between android phones that all suck in one way or another. I don't believe they will last more than a few years if my last samsung is any indication. And I don't give a crap about what android can do- I just want a phone that works. So I gu…

Sony Xperia still offer a great experience. Near stock Android, regular updates, quality cameras.

And some of them have official sailfish support if you want to try something new.

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Americans, do people not use whatsapp over there? In Europe everyone uses whatsapp for literally everything, with a sprinkling of Telegram if you are into something a little subversive and Signal if you actually care about privacy. The only time I use text/sms is to recieve codes for things, and I'm doing that less and less.

I live in northern Europe and the only people I know use WhatsApp are immigrants and children of immigrants that use it to communicate with people in the old country.

Where is northern Europe? Because here in northern European UK, everybody uses WhatsApp, which is convenient because also my southern European Italian friends do, and my relatives in equatorial Africa.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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I hate apple with a passion for not opening up iMessage, but here we are. That being said, I am getting my first iPhone in just a few days because I am sick of the 100000 choices between android phones that all suck in one way or another. I don't believe they will last more than a few years if my last samsung is any indication. And I don't give a crap about what android can do- I just want a phone that works. So I gu…

What 100000 choices? There are basically 6 Android phones. Of which only one matters - the Samsung Galaxy in it's 2 biggest sizes. So basically you need to pick between 2 Samsung phones, the major difference being size.

What about Google's Pixels, Sony's Xperias, Oppo/OnePlus, Xiaomi? There's plenty of choice, but that's a good thing. You can decide if you want to spend $100 extra for that waterproof model, or if a good enough camera is good enough.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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I hate apple with a passion for not opening up iMessage, but here we are. That being said, I am getting my first iPhone in just a few days because I am sick of the 100000 choices between android phones that all suck in one way or another. I don't believe they will last more than a few years if my last samsung is any indication. And I don't give a crap about what android can do- I just want a phone that works. So I gu…

> it's criminal that a vast reason they have so much market share is because of imessage and the fact that it's "broken" with SMS to some degree. That's just speculation, though. It's entirely plausible that the fundamental reason they have so much market share is because people agree with you: > I just want a phone that works. I've gone back and forth between Android and iPhone myself, and what draws me back to iPho…

That suggestion that people buy iPhones merely because of iMessage is outrageous to a non-American. While I might certainly be one of the reasons, I doubt it’s the reason, unless the user is 12.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Americans, do people not use whatsapp over there? In Europe everyone uses whatsapp for literally everything, with a sprinkling of Telegram if you are into something a little subversive and Signal if you actually care about privacy. The only time I use text/sms is to recieve codes for things, and I'm doing that less and less.

I live in northern Europe and the only people I know use WhatsApp are immigrants and children of immigrants that use it to communicate with people in the old country.

For me (also northern Europe) it seems that everyone uses WhatsApp.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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My two oldest children - 13 and 15 - have loudly proclaimed that having a "green bubble" would be worse than death .

I know the "green vs blue bubbles" gets a lot of press, but as someone who is not a teenager, and on the contrary is considerably past middle age at this point, that is not the real reason iMessage has a stranglehold on users. I've got an Android, and I recently went on a vacation with a group of friends who all had iPhones. I did feel a bit like a leper in the group chat we had set up for our vacation, and it wasn't…

Hard for me to disagree with that. The reason I have an iPhone is that I was having trouble with the family group chat when my mom was in the hospital.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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This is quite frankly utter bullshit unless there is a lack of parenting going on i.e. you brought your kids up to be judgy assholes. My kids and their friends have a right mix of all sorts of phones. They don't even talk about it. They just work out how to deal with it. Mostly that results in them picking a common platform, usually Discord or Snapchat and using that. This is not a technology issue!

i have a compilation of screenshots from adults saying the same thing from dating

Still a parenting issue! Just a bit late.
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