U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009) • Hacker News Board

Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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Post by tsol » Sat, Oct 08, 2022, 4:19 AM UTC

93po wrote: post #294

potbelly83 wrote: post #258

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I'm always curious what is it about old people that make some behave in this way? Is it the way people used to be raised, cognitive decline, or simple nothing better to do? I also notice it in the comment's section where older people tend to be far less forgiving of discretions than younger people.

It's not just old people. It's idle people. If you aren't focusing most of your attention on something outward in your life, you're going to hyper-focus inwardly and let tiny things eat at you all day.

That makes sense. It sounds like people on the internet honestly. Hyper focusing on inconsequential things just to have a reason to get at others

Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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Post by hn_go_brrrrr » Sat, Oct 08, 2022, 4:22 AM UTC

sophacles wrote: post #140

hn_go_brrrrr wrote: post #130

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> Yes, the evaporating cools down the room, though I can't say I ever noticed it. How does adding latent heat reduce the sensible heat? Are the clothes washed in very cold water?

Water evaporating absorbs energy - the transition from liquid to gas takes more energy than changing the temperature of the water, so drying the clothes is a net reduction of energy in the surrounding air. It relies on the air not being saturated (and for real effectiveness, requires relatively low humidity). It's quite popular in dry climates in the form of a "swamp cooler". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evaporative…

Thanks, that makes sense. I should have realized this given removing latent heat adds sensible heat.

Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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Post by hn_go_brrrrr » Sat, Oct 08, 2022, 4:23 AM UTC

lelanthran wrote: post #185

hn_go_brrrrr wrote: post #130

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> Yes, the evaporating cools down the room, though I can't say I ever noticed it. How does adding latent heat reduce the sensible heat? Are the clothes washed in very cold water?

> How does adding latent heat reduce the sensible heat? Are the clothes washed in very cold water? You're not adding latent heat to a room, you're adding water, which when evaporating uses up the heat energy in the room which cools it down. Look into how swamp chillers work.

Adding water to the air is literally adding latent heat. That's what the term means. Point taken about how that decreases sensible heat, though, thanks.

Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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Post by brnt » Sat, Oct 08, 2022, 7:28 AM UTC

giantg2 wrote: post #163

traveler01 wrote: post #134

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"and their law so restrictive in some cases" Note that there was no law against this. "This coming from the country where morons want to own a gun to protect their property and all other bs excuses, it's rather comedic." This is highly inflammatory and disrespectful language and some might see it as trolling to get us off topic. "And she received two anonymous notes from neighbors saying they did not want to see her…

> This is highly inflammatory and disrespectful language and some might see it as trolling to get us off topic.

Only in the US it is. The rest of us agree.

I know it's a big place in its own right and opinions differ inside the US too; I'm sure I'm not the first who, when adding all these peculiarities up, come to the conclusion that many or most Americans just don't like/trust their fellow Americans. So much seems to be about keeping others away, down, invisible, out or even dead.

Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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Post by pvaldes » Sat, Oct 08, 2022, 8:36 AM UTC

potbelly83 wrote: post #258

stormdennis wrote: post #217

Years back we rented a flat in a building that housed a lot of retired people. A regulation we weren't aware of was that you weren't allowed to hang anything on the railings of your balcony. On a day off we were cleaning and left a mat we'd washed to dry, hanging over the railing. It wasn't there an hour before we had a delegation at our door of angry elderly residents. They weren't one bit nice about it even after w…

I'm always curious what is it about old people that make some behave in this way? Is it the way people used to be raised, cognitive decline, or simple nothing better to do? I also notice it in the comment's section where older people tend to be far less forgiving of discretions than younger people.

Territorial behavior. It happens all the time between different groups of people

Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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Post by Broken_Hippo » Sat, Oct 08, 2022, 9:27 AM UTC

bluGill wrote: post #274

varjag wrote: post #138

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Central heating is fairly uncommon in Norway.

I haven't been to Norway, but I've been to Sweden which seems like it should be similar. All houses there have central heating. Maybe you are thinking about district heating? There are a few places in the world where the heat for an entire town comes from the same plant and is piped around. This is also called central heating which makes it confusing, thought district heating is the more correct term from what I can…

No, they aren't. Most houses that I've been in have electric heating, but not central heating. Folks heat each room seperately. Occasionally, it is baseboard heat. More commonly, it is portable heaters or electric panel heaters hung on a wall and plugged into a socket. Heated floors in the restroom are fairly common.

I personally have a small attic apartment in Trondheim (Norway). It has bathroom floor heat and came with one wall panel: I actually just use one oil-filled electric radiator and keep a fairly cool bedroom. Wood heating is pretty common too - one of the scents of fall is the lighting of fireplaces.

That said, more central heating is starting to become popular in the form of heat pumps, but I honestly only know one person that has one - and they are on a farm in the countryside instead of here in the city.

Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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Post by dang » Sat, Oct 08, 2022, 3:06 PM UTC

bigbacaloa wrote: post #14

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You can't post like this here, regardless of which country you have a problem with. We ban accounts that do, so please don't do it again.

If you'd please stop posting unsubstantive and/or flamebait comments generally, we'd appreciate that also. It's not what this site is for, and it destroys what it is for.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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Post by xtracto » Sat, Oct 08, 2022, 4:27 PM UTC

pengaru wrote: post #298

potbelly83 wrote: post #258

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I'm always curious what is it about old people that make some behave in this way? Is it the way people used to be raised, cognitive decline, or simple nothing better to do? I also notice it in the comment's section where older people tend to be far less forgiving of discretions than younger people.

The older you get the more the world changes around you, that rate of change is also increasing. Simultaneously your ability to adapt is diminishing. It's easy to imagine elderly people clinging desperately to what little resistance to change they have power over. It's motivated by a mix of fear and spite for a world they no longer understand. They may not be able to prevent other races from moving in next door, but…

I'm 40 and the older I get, the less patience I have. I see it for example with my love of Linux. Back in my 20s I loved to fiddle for hours to get things to work. Nowadays I dont have the patience for bullshit and spending time in small things.

I can only imagine how I'll be in another 40 years.

Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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Post by lelanthran » Sat, Oct 08, 2022, 7:43 PM UTC

iudqnolq wrote: post #310

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> For the pic seems to be her home, her property and she can't even hang her clothes to dry. Sure, but there's limits to what you can display on your front lawn without annoying the neighbours, no? As per the pic in the article, she's handing her clothing in the front yard , which, even in a country where drying-by-hanging is the norm, is still considered tacky and stupid.[1] Now, maybe she doesn't have a backyard, o…

> As per the pic in the article, she's handing her clothing in the front yard, which, even in a country where drying-by-hanging is the norm, is still considered tacky and stupid. Not in Scotland. In smaller towns you'll even see poles installed next to the sidewalk to hang your laundry in public.

The country I was referring to wasn't Scotland.

After all, Scotland is an outlier in this regard - there's a number of non-third-world countries where people are regarded as trailer-trash (or the local equivalent) for hanging their clothing in the front yard.

Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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Post by tropicalbeach » Sat, Oct 08, 2022, 9:24 PM UTC

bel_marinaio wrote: post #276

s1artibartfast wrote: post #265

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Some people are just rude and you see it in all ages. Older people probably have an expectation that you have read and understood the rules as well

Life was extremely rigid not that long ago. People knew their place and did not break the rules. I am not sure if this is better or worse than my idiot downstairs neighbors that would party every weekend til 3am with zero regard for any of their neighbors. Then they are banging on the ceiling at 4pm on a Wednesday because we were moving furniture around for 15 minutes.

I disagree there was far less rigidness to life than today. People broke way more rules back then. Laws weren't taken as seriously. You could break many laws and cops would let you off the hook easily if you were nice. Now days life is very strict and there is zero room for error if you make a mistake. You can screw up once you won't get another chance in today's world. Especially with cancel culture.

Everyday the country is developing new useless laws to control people. Soon there will be only one set way to live and thats it because all laws and rules will be written.