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U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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Post by adgjlsfhk1 »

nonethewiser wrote: post #102
refurb wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's 6% of residential use . Residential use is 39% of all electrical generation. So driers are 2.3%. That number doesn't surprise me in the least. Residential electrical consumption is trivial if you don't include heating. So having an appliance use 5% of all home electricity seems pretty low?

I'm actually struggling to figure out the remaining 94%. I guess AC is like #1, fridge, tv/computer.... lights ... ?

Oven, and stove are the major ones. Not everyone has electric oven/stove, but those consume way more electricity than a drier (because they are on more often). Microwaves, space heaters, and hair driers are also major power users.

Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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Post by ihatepython »

mattmanser wrote: post #85
morsch wrote: post #4

For the entirety of my life, we've hung or clothes to dry inside. No dryer. No, they don't smell bad. Yes, even with small kids in the household. No, there is no problem with mold. No, it doesn't take forever, I'd estimate twelve hours most of the year, depending on how fast you spun them (typically 1200+ rpm). Yes, the evaporating cools down the room, though I can't say I ever noticed it. In terms of energy efficien…

Have you only lived in one climate? One type of house? There are a lot of different buildings and climates where you will have problems hanging laundry indoors. It definitely can cause mould, it definitely is a health risk without paying extra for dehumidifiers. And dehumidifiers are not great for the environment either as well as costing extra. So two good reasons to hang out rather than in. Plus hanging laundry out…

Not if it's raining

Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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Post by gambiting »

nemo44x wrote: post #36
viraptor wrote: post #27

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> Especially by insisting to hang it in the front yard. We don't know if she has a backyard, so it may be just... the yard. > What if someone decides they shiujd park their car on the front lawn since the boat and camper take up the driveway? I don't understand. What then? Why shouldn't they? I'm not sure what a clinch is or why it's not welcome on the front lawn...

I have to explain why people shouldn’t park their car on their front lawn? Seriously? Aesthetics are a thing and I can’t imagine anyone that lives in my town (or most towns) finding that acceptable. “Clinch” was a typo; corrected to “couch”.

>>I have to explain why people shouldn’t park their car on their front lawn? Seriously?

Yes, yes please. Is it their front lawn? As in - they own the land? And they aren't causing any harm or damage to anyone, other than the fact that you don't like it? You mentioned "property value loss" in another comment - that's not a thing. Certainly not due to a car parked on someone's lawn.

Again, I find your intention to get into other people's business just.....strange.

Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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Post by WastingMyTime89 »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #103
forgotmypw17 wrote: post #6

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Clothes last much longer that way, too. The dryer wears down clothing very quickly with friction.

I wear ASICS/Uniqlo/Next/Adidas/Express/etc level clothing ($5 to $30 per item) and it lasts many years (5+) even though I use washers and dryers constantly. Cannot imagine additional longevity would be worth all the work of manually doing it.

That’s mostly sport wear brands. You can’t wear that at work in most of the world.

I doubt Uniqlo clothes last five years while tumble dried. I hand dry the few t-shirts I own from them and after three years I wouldn’t wear them as anything else than bed wear.

Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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Post by varjag »

bluGill wrote: post #106
Broken_Hippo wrote: post #52

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I dunno about that - I live in Norway. Most folks dry their clothes inside for most of the year. They take a little longer to dry in the winter, but it really isn't an issue.

London has an interesting climate - despite being fairly far north it doesn't get that cold in winter. It is common there to not have whole house heating. Norway isn't far London, but it is enough worse a climate that pretty much everyone has some form of central heating and keeps their house warm year round. For this discussion is means that in London the indoor climate is livable, but terrible for trying clothes, w…

Central heating is fairly uncommon in Norway.

Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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Post by nemo44x »

SaddledBounding wrote: post #105
nemo44x wrote: post #17

Although I get her point I think she’s antisocial and being a bad neighbor. Especially by insisting to hang it in the front yard. To live peacefully in a society you have to compromise and you can’t just do as you please. Communities have certain standards and by-laws that should be respected. If you’re compelled then bring it up at the next town meeting and rally support for your cause. What if someone decides they…

The vast majority of people in the Hacker News community clearly take offense to your view. Perhaps you should take a moment to consider your own antisocial behavior and quietly not express your opinion. After all, we need to compromise and can't just say as we please.

My comment is perfectly within the community guidelines of this site. You’ve unwittingly proven my point - communities have guidelines and by-laws.

Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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Post by sophacles »

hn_go_brrrrr wrote: post #130
morsch wrote: post #4

For the entirety of my life, we've hung or clothes to dry inside. No dryer. No, they don't smell bad. Yes, even with small kids in the household. No, there is no problem with mold. No, it doesn't take forever, I'd estimate twelve hours most of the year, depending on how fast you spun them (typically 1200+ rpm). Yes, the evaporating cools down the room, though I can't say I ever noticed it. In terms of energy efficien…

> Yes, the evaporating cools down the room, though I can't say I ever noticed it. How does adding latent heat reduce the sensible heat? Are the clothes washed in very cold water?

Water evaporating absorbs energy - the transition from liquid to gas takes more energy than changing the temperature of the water, so drying the clothes is a net reduction of energy in the surrounding air.

It relies on the air not being saturated (and for real effectiveness, requires relatively low humidity). It's quite popular in dry climates in the form of a "swamp cooler".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evaporative_cooler

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