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U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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For those thinking about going no-dryer: You can also get small, indoor, foldable clothes drying racks for around $20. I used one of these my entire adult life and pretty much never needed a dryer. Later on I got a house that came with a dryer, but only use it for large items like bed sheets.

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we don’t even have healthcare, let us have dryers

Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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This very much depends on your local climate and the building itself. Definitely not possible in the flat we live in during the winter unless we run a dehumidifier.

Where do you live? Winter is when people traditionally use humidifiers because the air inside tends to be dry. (Cold air outside has a low absolute humidity, so relative humidity will be low when you heat it up inside.)

London. Cold enough that anything in an old Victorian building won't dry but warm enough that the air remains humid.

Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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> dryer use accounts for about 6 percent of U.S. residential electricity use That's a huge amount! I didn't realize it was so much!

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Bitcoin uses approximately 130 TWh annually. The US residential electricity usage from 2018 (latest I could find) was 1,461 TWh. So 1461 * 6% you get 87.66 TWh annually for drying clothes. Thankfully we can address energy waste in many different areas at the same time. In the latest bill there were rebates passed for heat pump dryers which can reduce energy usage for a dryer by 50%

Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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post #17

Although I get her point I think she’s antisocial and being a bad neighbor. Especially by insisting to hang it in the front yard. To live peacefully in a society you have to compromise and you can’t just do as you please. Communities have certain standards and by-laws that should be respected. If you’re compelled then bring it up at the next town meeting and rally support for your cause. What if someone decides they…

> Although I get her point I think she’s antisocial and being a bad neighbor. Especially by insisting to hang it in the front yard.

That’s a very restrictive view of what a good neighbour should be. Those who are offended by the view of drying clothes and insist on dictating other people’s lifestyle are much worse neighbours than she is.

> To live peacefully in a society you have to compromise and you can’t just do as you please.

Exactly. Like accepting that some people hang their clothes to dry. That’s a step towards keeping a peaceful neighbourhood.

> What if someone decides they shiujd park their car on the front lawn since the boat and camper take up the driveway? Or just set a clinch up on the front lawn because I like to have a nap there?

Who the fuck cares? Whom would this hurt?

Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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post #17

Although I get her point I think she’s antisocial and being a bad neighbor. Especially by insisting to hang it in the front yard. To live peacefully in a society you have to compromise and you can’t just do as you please. Communities have certain standards and by-laws that should be respected. If you’re compelled then bring it up at the next town meeting and rally support for your cause. What if someone decides they…

> Especially by insisting to hang it in the front yard.

We don't know if she has a backyard, so it may be just... the yard.

> What if someone decides they shiujd park their car on the front lawn since the boat and camper take up the driveway?

I don't understand. What then? Why shouldn't they?

I'm not sure what a clinch is or why it's not welcome on the front lawn...

Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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post #17

Although I get her point I think she’s antisocial and being a bad neighbor. Especially by insisting to hang it in the front yard. To live peacefully in a society you have to compromise and you can’t just do as you please. Communities have certain standards and by-laws that should be respected. If you’re compelled then bring it up at the next town meeting and rally support for your cause. What if someone decides they…

It's strange that Americans have decided that drying clothes on a line is as much an expression of antisocial tendencies as keeping trash in your front yard.

Re: U.S. residents fight for the right to hang laundry (2009)

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> dryer use accounts for about 6 percent of U.S. residential electricity use That's a huge amount! I didn't realize it was so much!

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US Residential electricity use in 2022: 1477 billion kWH. [1] 6% constitutes about 88 billion kWh according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA).

As of August 2022, published estimates of the total global electricity usage for crypto-assets are between 120 and 240 billion kilowatt-hours per year, a range that exceeds the total annual electricity usage of many individual countries, such as Argentina or Australia.[2]

Then again, the US is the third most populous country in the world with a population of 330 million. It's also second in yearly electricity consumption globally after China (4 million GWh vs 8 million GWh).[3]

In that regard, your equivalence is false. Sure, dryers clearly use up a ton of electricity and it's perfectly reasonable to question the value of having your clothes dried by an electrical machine. Then again, clearly crypto uses a ton of electricity as well, while you could equally argue that there are clear alternatives, which don't require all of that just to be able to have a means of payment.

Of course, the meta discussion being that laundry drying machines have a clear marketable value and direct use to the vast majority of the U.S population, whereas with cryptocurrencies, the vote is very much still out there.

[1] https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-power-use-rise-20... [2] https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/09-202... [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_electrici...

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