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Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage

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Re: Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage

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Post by harha »

HWR_14 wrote: post #218
harha wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In theory yes, but in practice it could easily cost you more to deal with the airline and it might well be that you don’t have the receipts anymore. With another European airline I recently waited exactly one day less than the three weeks required for them to deliver a child seat. That’s almost three weeks of not having one to safely transport my child, no support or compensation. Since I was returning to my country…

> That’s almost three weeks of not having one to safely transport my child, no support or compensation. Why not just buy a new one and charge the airline for it?

They won't compensate you unless the luggage hasn't been delivered within three weeks. Even then they'll put up a battle and make you go through a bunch of forms and hotlines, request receipts that you might not have anymore etc.

For a baby car seat, probably not worth it. For other things it might be but the receipt is missing etc.

At the end it's a damage you have to face for them not doing their job right.

Re: Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage

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Post by thecosmicfrog »

chrisseaton wrote: post #91
dghlsakjg wrote: post #20

The cat is out of the bag. There is no way that people are going to stop putting AirTags in their luggage, at least not while airlines are still constantly losing luggage and fighting people on reimbursement.

> at least not while airlines are still constantly losing luggage Does that actually happen to people still? I thought it was just a 90s meme. I get a push notification every time they move my bag anywhere. 'Accepted into the system', 'loaded onto the plane', 'unloaded off the plane', 'popped out at the carousel'. Seems pretty bullet proof these days.

I'm not sure what airlines you're flying with, but I've never gotten any notifications like this - in the US or Europe.

Re: Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage

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Post by filoleg »

bonestamp2 wrote: post #370
crystaln wrote: post #301

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The term airplane mode will persist as an anachronism forever. Some day we will have to explain to our grandchildren why disabling networks has anything to do with airplanes.

My iPad is forever in airplane mode. That way I can turn wifi off without iOS automatically turning it back on 24 hours later.

If you turn off wifi from settings instead of the control center (top right corner pull), it will stay turned off. If you turn it off from the control center, it will indeed say "Turning off WiFi until tomorrow".

Re: Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage

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Post by pb7 »

bonestamp2 wrote: post #370
crystaln wrote: post #301

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The term airplane mode will persist as an anachronism forever. Some day we will have to explain to our grandchildren why disabling networks has anything to do with airplanes.

My iPad is forever in airplane mode. That way I can turn wifi off without iOS automatically turning it back on 24 hours later.

It only turns back on 24 hours later if you turn it off from Control Center. If you go to Settings > Wi-Fi, it will turn off permanently.

Re: Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage

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Post by simlevesque »

jpmattia wrote: post #319
nostrademons wrote: post #76

Note that the reason for airport mode is a courtesy to cell-phone carriers. It's not any air safety issue. Rather, 300-500 cell phones all trying to contact the next cell tower, multiple times per minute, would wreak havoc on cell service. https://www.inverse.com/article/51015-cell-phone-use-on-airp... At one point, when both cell phones and laptops were new, there was perhaps a risk to the airplane's electronics. Mo…

> Rather, 300-500 cell phones all trying to contact the next cell tower, multiple times per minute, would wreak havoc on cell service. I'm probably being a simpleton, but this sounds like inadequate firmware to me. At the very least: Airtags have GPS, so shut them off when they are at $ALTITUDE.

I mean, let's think this all can work.

You turn it off at $ALTITUDE. When do you turn them on ? There's no button and it is powered off.

Re: Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage

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Post by [deleted] »

chrisseaton wrote: post #91
dghlsakjg wrote: post #20

The cat is out of the bag. There is no way that people are going to stop putting AirTags in their luggage, at least not while airlines are still constantly losing luggage and fighting people on reimbursement.

> at least not while airlines are still constantly losing luggage Does that actually happen to people still? I thought it was just a 90s meme. I get a push notification every time they move my bag anywhere. 'Accepted into the system', 'loaded onto the plane', 'unloaded off the plane', 'popped out at the carousel'. Seems pretty bullet proof these days.

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Re: Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage

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Post by [deleted] »

chrisseaton wrote: post #251
whatever1 wrote: post #171

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For international trips this is close to 10%. My math professor is flying once a month to Europe from the US for the past 20 years. He told me about this statistic he built from his trip history and I thought he was exaggerating. On my 10th trans-Atlantic trip of course I lost my luggage.

So on a typical 747 flight 40 people will have their luggage lost when we get to the reclaim? That seems really improbably high. How come I don't see hundreds of people standing around getting angry at the belt? At Heathrow, it'd mean 20,000+ people a day with lost luggage (if they all checked luggage). You'd need more than the entire taxi fleet of London to get their luggage to their hotels. Really doesn't pass a co…

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Re: Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage

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Post by chrisseaton »

[deleted] wrote: post #377
chrisseaton wrote: post #251

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So on a typical 747 flight 40 people will have their luggage lost when we get to the reclaim? That seems really improbably high. How come I don't see hundreds of people standing around getting angry at the belt? At Heathrow, it'd mean 20,000+ people a day with lost luggage (if they all checked luggage). You'd need more than the entire taxi fleet of London to get their luggage to their hotels. Really doesn't pass a co…

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Of course - but it's an indication of the ludicrous scale. How many vehicles do they use to move these 20,000 bags around to London hotels? Even if it's each one doing 20 bags a day do they have a like a fleet of thousand vans or something just for moving lost bags? Just for Heathrow?

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Post by willsmith72 »

bonestamp2 wrote: post #370
crystaln wrote: post #301

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The term airplane mode will persist as an anachronism forever. Some day we will have to explain to our grandchildren why disabling networks has anything to do with airplanes.

My iPad is forever in airplane mode. That way I can turn wifi off without iOS automatically turning it back on 24 hours later.

That and the same with Bluetooth is something that really grinds my gears with apple

Re: Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage

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Post by NegativeLatency »

schappim wrote: post #258

Just wait until AirTags have accelerometers in them too (capturing all the abuse to bags)! Seriously though, I'll be surprised if Apple puts any serious resources into future versions of the AirTag, given the amount of bad PR[0] they've generated for Apple, and how allergic Apple is to bad PR. From the perspective of Apple, the cost to benefit ratio doesn't seem to be there, especially for a product that is a roundin…

This just convinced me to buy some.
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