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Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage

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Re: Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage

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Post by chrisseaton »

dghlsakjg wrote: post #20

The cat is out of the bag. There is no way that people are going to stop putting AirTags in their luggage, at least not while airlines are still constantly losing luggage and fighting people on reimbursement.

> at least not while airlines are still constantly losing luggage

Does that actually happen to people still? I thought it was just a 90s meme. I get a push notification every time they move my bag anywhere. 'Accepted into the system', 'loaded onto the plane', 'unloaded off the plane', 'popped out at the carousel'. Seems pretty bullet proof these days.

Re: Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage

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Post by ninth_ant »

TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #6

There could be non-cynical motives for airlines not to want customers to be able to track their baggage. Getting weird enquiries about whether bags have been stolen because they are in some unexpected non-airport location, when it's just a place the airline uses to handle delayed baggage, is probably troublesome for them.

Is it really a “weird inquiry” for someone to wonder why their bags aren’t being delivered?

If the bags aren’t being delivered, that’s troublesome for the owner of the bags. And a version of “troublesome” I find more sympathy for compared to the burden on poor ol’ massive airline companies having to listen to their customers when they lose their property.

Re: Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage

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Post by harha »

aliqot wrote: post #64
FredPret wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So inconvenient for them to do what they were contracted to do: fly you and your luggage from A to B. Can’t they just get free money?

You might get money for your troubles if your flight or luggage is delayed. For luggage being lost the maximum liability is $3,800 for domestic flights and about $1,800 for international flights https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/19/what-travelers-need-to-know-...

In theory yes, but in practice it could easily cost you more to deal with the airline and it might well be that you don’t have the receipts anymore.

With another European airline I recently waited exactly one day less than the three weeks required for them to deliver a child seat. That’s almost three weeks of not having one to safely transport my child, no support or compensation. Since I was returning to my country of residence the credit card company also didn’t refund.

Re: Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage

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Post by [deleted] »

rconti wrote: post #58
dghlsakjg wrote: post #20

The cat is out of the bag. There is no way that people are going to stop putting AirTags in their luggage, at least not while airlines are still constantly losing luggage and fighting people on reimbursement.

I get that it's inconvenient and could be used nefariously. I'm not sure what kinds of worker protections airline staff have in Europe, but I can see why it might be problematic that I'm tracking the employee as they drive their van full of lost luggage to my hotel. Still, it's my stuff, so I'm going to keep putting AirTags in every bag I travel with. I'm sorry, but.. what are they going to do? Ban me from the airlin…

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Re: Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage

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Post by googlryas »

runjake wrote: post #25

For all the people commenting "How would they know?", AirTags are scannable by NFC readers and identify themselves as an AirTag. You can test this yourself by downloading the NFC Tools app on your iPhone (or one for Android) and doing a read on the AirTag. https://apps.apple.com/us/app/nfc-tools/id1252962749

I put an airtag on the inside pocket of my luggage, and am having no luck scanning it from the outside. It seems unlikely this will work. I can still find it with my iphone though.

Re: Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage

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Post by zwily »

keyle wrote: post #69

Isn't it a case of false information? I thought the tags communicated with nearby Bluetooth devices that have gps, which there should be none active nearby lost luggage... so people would scream that their luggage is somewhere around while the location is in fact outdated?

Chances are, there is someone around. An airline worker with an iPhone in their pocket, etc. I’ve put AirTags in my luggage since they came out and it’s fun to see how often their location gets pinged.

Re: Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage

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Post by Maximus9000 »

myself248 wrote: post #52
sushid wrote: post #34

This is going to have the opposite of their intended effect. People are now going to be more interested than ever in AirTags precisely for luggages thanks to them.

Bingo! It hadn't occurred to me until just now, but you bet your butt there'll be an Airtag, a Trackr, and a Tile in my luggage next time.

Me too.

Re: Lufthansa bans AirTags in checked luggage

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Post by sokoloff »

SomeBoolshit wrote: post #32
thayne wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, if they are transmitting, at least in theory it would be possible to detect that transmission. Though I would be kind of surprised if they actually put much effort into actually enforcing it.

But then why is inflight wifi a thing?

Under FAA rules (what I’m familiar with, EU/DE/ICAO is probably similar), the air carrier can determine which portable electronic devices to allow.

The law (it’s short): https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/14/91.21

An advisory circular relating to it: https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Advisory_Circular/...

This allows an air carrier to approve anything they’re confident won’t cause an issue but not approve AirTags.

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