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> A political organization like EU has no say in this. EU and most people living within it would disagree with this statement.
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EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024
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This is such a short sighted view. What just happened is, EU, a political organization enforcing the use of a technology on a company which operates on free market. It's Apples best interest to make technology that the consumers want so that they can sell more units of that. A political organization like EU has no say in this. EU citizens already make this decision for themselves by voting with money and choosing to…
> What just happened is, EU, a political organization enforcing the use of a technology on a company which operates on free market. Where are you living that your free market isn't regulated for the benefit of the consumer?
Can't speak for the person you are commenting to. But I live in the US and there are many industries that are not regulated for the benefit of the consumer. Telecom being a big one. Companies get away with a lot of anti-competitive practices here. Starbucks snuffing out ma and pa stores, eating loses just to become the only game in town.
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#633As an EU citizen, I am really happy with this decision. I am an iPhone user, but having an iPhone is not ubiquitous here, almost all of my friends/special other, use an Android phone with USB-C. Most of their laptops, Mac or not, use or allow USB-C for charging. This as been the case for a few years now, yet, if I go somewhere for more than a full day and forget my lighting cable, my phone will become a useless paper…
This is such a short sighted view. What just happened is, EU, a political organization enforcing the use of a technology on a company which operates on free market. It's Apples best interest to make technology that the consumers want so that they can sell more units of that. A political organization like EU has no say in this. EU citizens already make this decision for themselves by voting with money and choosing to…
It's a phone charging port. It's not that serious. It's better for consumers if we all have the same one for everything, if possible. Unless you can tell me why not?
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#634I agree with the overall tone in the comments here: yay in general, but what a shame a law needs to specify a specific port for ~iPhones~ devices. I really like USB-C. It's sooo convenient to charge my notebook, my headphones, my phone, my everything with the same cable. However what bothers me since someone pointed it out to me: for phones, which are used all day in all kind of situations, lightning has a big andvan…
I’ve tripped over an old iPhone, catching the cable and deforming the charging port. That made charging the phone difficult until I got a new one. Now I only use the MagSafe charger to prevent another such mishap. One more “moving part” that I don’t have to worry about.
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#635The EU tried very hard, for very many years to signal to the industry "do this yourself so you don't have to legislate it, we don't want to legislate it, you don't want us to legislate it" but Apple (and only Apple) just refused to listen, so here we are. For micro-USB, they got the industry together in a "memorandum of understanding" to get them to self-implement it without regulation, and it worked great - everyone…
> but Apple (and only Apple) just refused to listen, so here we are.
Did consumers find this so onerous that they stopped buying iPhones?
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#637Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is such a short sighted view. What just happened is, EU, a political organization enforcing the use of a technology on a company which operates on free market. It's Apples best interest to make technology that the consumers want so that they can sell more units of that. A political organization like EU has no say in this. EU citizens already make this decision for themselves by voting with money and choosing to…
> A political organization like EU has no say in this. EU and most people living within it would disagree with this statement.
> and most people living within it
without a referendum on such issues these kinds of statements are moot.
i'm also an EU citizen and this thing (along with many other EU decisions) are in the same dystopian vein as the covid fiasco in europe.
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On the flipside, this means the thin logic board that connects to the pins is in the host device, not in the cable. Which means if you break it off, you need to replace the whole port, which might be difficult or expensive; instead of the (relatively) cheap cable. I _love_ USB-C as a concept, but this alone makes, in my opinion, Lightning the superior physical connector. And yes, I have had to replace / throw away en…
Anecdotal evidence: I have had to replace a device because of a failed USB-C port, but I have never had to replace a device because of a failed Lightning port. I know, it's one data point, but there it is.
Was it on a Macbook? I think there could be some confounding factors if not -- there exist bottom of the barrel laptop manufacturers who'll somehow figure out a shitty way to implement a USB-C port. There doesn't exist a bottom of the barrel iPhone manufacturer. Apple does a good job of making sure all their components are mid-tier at least, I think. Maybe we could compare to third party lightning ports but they tend to be pretty rare.
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#639I’m worried about that little wafer in the usb-c port breaking.
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> What just happened is, EU, a political organization enforcing the use of a technology on a company which operates on free market. Where are you living that your free market isn't regulated for the benefit of the consumer?
> benefit of the consumer Says who? USB type-XYZ will be even more beneficial to the consumer in 5 years and the EU governing body is going to what... ? update the books with that? Force all consumer electronics companies to switch? Will they be the new guiding light for all things tech deciding what is "good" for the consumer? This is a bad take and others who might find it convenient for Apple to forced to do this…
> USB type-XYZ will be even more beneficial to the consumer in 5 years and the EU governing body is going to what... ? update the books with that? Force all consumer electronics companies to switch?
Sure! Why not?
More practically, it wouldn't be hard to designate a list of standardized form factors. The average smartphone also has plenty of real estate on its edges to ship multiple connectors (especially now that so many phones are dropping 3.5mm jacks), so if some fancy-shmancy USB-D or USB-J or whatever comes out it wouldn't be the end of the world to ship both until the EU updates its legislation to allow the fancy-shmancy one as an acceptable single port.
As it stands, the EU's decision represents a strict improvement from the consumer's perspective. That's worth celebrating, even before the longer-term kinks have been ironed out.