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EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024

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Less waste after iPhone users all have to throw away their cables and buy new ones, presumably?

They'd have to throw away their phones first for the cables to become useless, I'd say the phones are the larger e-waste problem.

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Because apple refuses to play ball otherwise. Capitalism has failed and is now producing tonnes of unnecessary e-waste.

A 4 year old iPhone still works perfectly, but a $200 Android will find its way to a landfill way sooner. As a rule of thumb, appliances that last are better for the environment than cheap products. Apple is good at make devices that last. Nowadays all laptops can charge over usb-c (including Apple laptops, mind you!). Did anybody have to force Apple to do this? No, because charging technology improved so much that w…

>A 4 year old iPhone still works perfectly, but a $200 Android will find its way to a landfill way sooner. As a rule of thumb, appliances that last are better for the environment than cheap products. Apple is good at make devices that last.

Got any source for that?

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Fast-Forward to Autumn 2023 or Spring 2024 : Tim Cook: (40:20) Now let’s talk about iPhone. iPhone has forever changed the world. Every single day people rely on iPhone, from their most demanding tasks to capturing the moments of their lives, streaming their favorite TV shows, playing their favorite games, staying up to date with the news of the world and connecting with friends and loved ones. Tim Cook: (40:42) This…

"...and that's the new iPhone. It's our best iPhone ever, and we think you're going to love it! Now, back to Tim"

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LET'S GO EU! These headlines make me proud. Let's reach a global standard for charging stuff. I wish everything that had to be charged sometimes had a USB-C plug. But also I hope that the USB standard gets less messy in the future.

What if a device doesn't need all the extra pins in the USB-C connector? What if it only uses VBUS/D+/D-/GND?

Presumably the same as when a device doesn't need all of the lightning pins

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I think that’s what weirds me out. In cases like rail, it’s necessary for interoperability and prevents anti competitive practices. There’s a clear state interest there. But swapping a plug doesn’t buy us that. This is evidenced by the fact that no company is forced to use lightning to compete. Almost everything uses USB-A at the outlet and choose your other end. We’re starting to see USB-C at the outlet, but same th…

> I also don’t see the e-waste argument. I haven’t had a cable outlive a device. My old Nokia Micro-B cables outlived their bundled devices by a factor of… 3x or so? And I only took those out of use because I don't have a lot of stuff that still uses Micro-B. Actually, I don't think I've ever managed to break a USB cable yet. What on earth are you doing to the things?!

Apple cables were notoriously shitty for many years, because they didn't build strain relief into them, until a couple generations ago, and they would fray with time.

I imagine this is what GP experienced, based on my experience with it on iphones and apple laptops.

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A LOT of less waste maybe ? It is very inconvenient and a hassle to have 5 different cables for 5 different devices. It is a waste of space, materials... The economic gains by volume continent wide should not be underestimated.

Less waste after iPhone users all have to throw away their cables and buy new ones, presumably?

It's not going to affect existing phones.

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I agree with the overall tone in the comments here: yay in general, but what a shame a law needs to specify a specific port for ~iPhones~ devices.

I really like USB-C. It's sooo convenient to charge my notebook, my headphones, my phone, my everything with the same cable. However what bothers me since someone pointed it out to me: for phones, which are used all day in all kind of situations, lightning has a big andvantage over USB-C. It's has no parts inside the port and therefore is harder to break. Maybe we get something like this with USB-D, but hopefully it will take a long time until then. Meanwhile I'll enjoy my Fairphone, which has a replacable USB-C port.

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Why do people think it is a good thing to have this enforced by law is beyond me. I don't see any win besides a minor convenience. A lightning cable weighs almost nothing and it's not a big deal to have one around. As to lightning port limitations, I question whether usb-c will give average iPhone users any other advantage other than charging their phone. What are people gonna do with it other than charge their phone…

> What are people gonna do with it other than charge their phones or transfer files?

It would at least save me from carrying one power brick + usb cable. Steam Deck (USB C), Switch (USB C), MacBook Pro (USB C) and iPhone is the only odd one out. This does make a significant difference to what I can take with me on holiday.

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I'm eager to watch how Apple spins this as a voluntary decision in their product announcement. To see the specific wording they pick for how the timing is a coincidence and they really just care about their customers' best interests.

I’m kind of hoping they ship an EU Edition phone that is a normal phone, but with a dongle welded into the lightning port.

The dongle should have the phone numbers of those who passed this law etched into it.

Just let me keep my Lightning port as an American.

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