EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024

Post by kypro » Tue, Oct 04, 2022, 12:39 PM UTC

jld89 wrote: post #71

_trackno5 wrote: post #49

Why do people think it is a good thing to have this enforced by law is beyond me. I don't see any win besides a minor convenience. A lightning cable weighs almost nothing and it's not a big deal to have one around. As to lightning port limitations, I question whether usb-c will give average iPhone users any other advantage other than charging their phone. What are people gonna do with it other than charge their phone…

A LOT of less waste maybe ? It is very inconvenient and a hassle to have 5 different cables for 5 different devices. It is a waste of space, materials... The economic gains by volume continent wide should not be underestimated.

Post by jmull » Tue, Oct 04, 2022, 12:39 PM UTC

Nullabillity wrote: post #63

jmull wrote: post #56

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I can “reassure” you: this is unambiguously a bad idea. First, market forces already standardized on two main standards. Second, the interop problem is a $10 cable between wall-wart and device. So the problem solved is a small one. I think this idea got its momentum from years ago when practically every model of phone had a different charger and wall wart. Meanwhile, think about what you lose. Is USB-C really the end…

> First, market forces already standardized on two main standards. So, one standard too many. Especially when one of those standards is held hostage by one corporation. > Is USB-C really the end-game of charging connectors? It's close enough, we can already see that improvements have been incredibly incremental already. Hell, it would have been fine to stick to micro-B or even mini-B. > What about mag-safe-style conn…

Post by jhoelzel » Tue, Oct 04, 2022, 12:40 PM UTC

iampivot wrote: post #83

jhoelzel wrote: post #78

"Starting in 2026, USB-C will also become the norm for laptop chargers." I believe it when I see it! My Surfacebook has USB-C Charging but its not enough to run the GPU at max. I hate the surface dock that I need to use but from my understanding -i do have to use it- because of the power requirments.

USB-C can easily deliver 100w continuously if the charger and laptop supports it.

Post by MisterTea » Tue, Oct 04, 2022, 12:41 PM UTC

Post by Heliosmaster » Tue, Oct 04, 2022, 12:41 PM UTC

roenxi wrote: post #95

capableweb wrote: post #91

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Is there something in this regulation that says it can never be changed to something else in the future? Why do you assume USB-C will remain the standard for all future? Seems likely if something else pops up in 2030 that is way better, there is nothing to suggest a new regulation couldn't be made.

How will they figure out that there is a better standard in the future? Certainly not with a study in the EU. They're going to have to send investigators to more advanced foreign countries to figure out what charger to use.