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EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024

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Re: EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024

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Post by jld89 »

_trackno5 wrote: post #49

Why do people think it is a good thing to have this enforced by law is beyond me. I don't see any win besides a minor convenience. A lightning cable weighs almost nothing and it's not a big deal to have one around. As to lightning port limitations, I question whether usb-c will give average iPhone users any other advantage other than charging their phone. What are people gonna do with it other than charge their phone…

A LOT of less waste maybe ?

It is very inconvenient and a hassle to have 5 different cables for 5 different devices. It is a waste of space, materials... The economic gains by volume continent wide should not be underestimated.

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Post by Y-bar »

that_guy_iain wrote: post #9

This is an awesome move in my opinion. While it's pretty much defactor making it universal and legally required will be with the cutter and waste that is created by often requiring a special charger or a different charge for a device.

Yes, a big finally! I love my Apple device (personal iPhone 12 mini, work iPhone 8, Apple TV 4K with new remote, iPad Air, ...) but the lightning connection should obviously have been retired a few years ago.

Re: EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024

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Post by acadapter »

mdrzn wrote: post #33

LET'S GO EU! These headlines make me proud. Let's reach a global standard for charging stuff. I wish everything that had to be charged sometimes had a USB-C plug. But also I hope that the USB standard gets less messy in the future.

What if a device doesn't need all the extra pins in the USB-C connector? What if it only uses VBUS/D+/D-/GND?

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Post by roenxi »

This legislation would have been stupid at any other time in the history of hardware. It will prove to be stupid now as well. There is no reason to think the USB-C is the peak of technical achievement or even consistently a local optimum design choice.

The EU has enough problems right now, they don't need to try and help Apple design iPhones.

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Post by haunter »

thiht wrote: post #67

What happens if a constructor wants to push for full wireless charging? I didn't read the texts, but wouldn't something like mandating companies to release a version of their products with USB-C better instead of only allowing USB-C? Say for example Apple wants to release iPhone 20 with Lightning, or full wireless, then force them to also release iPhone 20 with USB-C and leave the choice to consumers? Is this allowed…

The text literally say ""in so far as they are capable of being recharged via wired charging"

So pretty much nothing, a manufacturer can go straight to wireless charging.

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Post by jhoelzel »

"Starting in 2026, USB-C will also become the norm for laptop chargers."

I believe it when I see it! My Surfacebook has USB-C Charging but its not enough to run the GPU at max. I hate the surface dock that I need to use but from my understanding -i do have to use it- because of the power requirments.

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Post by webmobdev »

dijit wrote: post #44
moring wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did the current cable used by the iPhone have this problem too? If not, isn't this changing it to the worse? edit to clarify: ... because while Apple might still include a working cable, but if you grab one of the 10 cables out of your cable box, you don't know if it will actually work.

Apple's USB-C cable (called: "USB-C Charge Cable") supports 97w charging and USB 2.0 data transfer speeds. Apple only has one other USB-C USB-C cable and that's the "Thunderbolt 3 Cable" which supports everything in USB 3.1 Gen 2

The Apple USB-C charge cable ( https://www.apple.com/in/shop/product/MM093ZM/A/usb-c-charge... ) is supposed to be used with a 20W power adapter for iPad. The Thunderbolt USB-C cable is the one that supports up to 100W ( https://www.apple.com/in/shop/product/MQ4H2ZM/A/thunderbolt-... ).

Re: EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024

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Post by bodge5000 »

D13Fd wrote: post #65
bodge5000 wrote: post #51

I'd certainly much rather type-c than lightning or, god forbid, micro usb, but it also has its own issues. Issues that one would hope would be solved by the usb-d, and so on. The problem with this law is that it makes it much more difficult to start using future usb standards. The EU addressed this by saying that they'll keep up with technology as it moves, but one thing that technology is famous for, and the EU is i…

Saying they’ll keep up doesn’t really make sense. The regulation will cause innovation to slow or stop in this area. So there won’t be a whole lot to keep up with. After all, why invest money in improving your charging connector if you are going to be mandated to use USB-C anyway?

I said in another comment, its a chicken & egg problem. The EU will allow new standards as they're used, but nobody will use new standards until the EU allows it.
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